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Hynad on 15 October 2011
BoosterGold said:
Hynad said:
BoosterGold said:
TripleMMM said:
BoosterGold said:

Gameplay? you mean jumping on platforms over and over since the 80s? Mario, Donkey Kong, Kirby all you do is run from right to left and jump on things.

Lol, I got to ask, what's wrong with jumping on platforms?

Its repetitive, its nothing new the gameplay has barely evolved since the NES, its straight forward and simple compare something like Donkey Kong and Kirby to Batman Arkham City or Red Dead Redemption or Uncharted, its laughable in comparison.

Even comparing Mario to Little Big Planet is pathetic because LBP you can do a vast amount more than mario, it beats it in every possible way.

Not only that the games have no story, trophies to extend the play, HD graphics, good controls and characters that cant even talk.

You mean like the gameplay of MGS4 (a game from your profile list) barely evolved since the very first MGS?   Yeah, I get what you mean now.

You talk about story like it is important...  You probably never play any sports game, since they don't have any story cut-scenes.  The devs clearly don't improve controls, gameplay and presentation in them though, right?  

Now, your mention of Red Dead Redemption is pretty laughable.  The game may be great, but it's not a game that pushed any envelop except for the superficial coating.  A far-west game that takes every single gameplay design ideas from the GTA series.  That gamne could have been called Grand Theft Horse.

MGS4 wasnt greatly different but its gameplay in todays time is still up to par and is actually good and has more to it than jumping and moving across the sceen, Donkey Kong is still stook in the 80s.

Fight Night Champion was a sports game that had a story so there you go. Sports games dont need a story to begin with (you made a pretty stupid point here) Mario attempts at a story somewhat as does Zelda yet its always terrible, its always about saving some princess in a castle.

As for Red Dead Redemption it was basically a GTA game but like you said the game was "great" Donkey kong and Kirby are not great. Even if it changed nothing it still played good and better than most games, Donkey Kong and Kirby are worse than most HD games. The game looked great and was in HD, Donkey Kong and Kirby are no better than PS2 games. The game had a story with characters that could talk, Donkey Kong and Kirby have neither and are aimed for the under 11 crowd.

Nintendo doesnt make good games. Look at the 2011 metacritic high scores, the console struggles to get games that are considered good, it has one game over the score of 90. 2010 it has 2 games that got over 90, one was a Rockband games with mediocre a user score. In 2009 it had only one game over 90.

They dont compare to PS3 or Xbox, its just a console for small children and families.

Wait, you're using Metacritics in your argument?  Really?

Ok then. Let's have a look at Metacritics now, shall we.

Here is a list of Nintendo developed games with their Metacritics scores:

- Super Mario Galaxy: 97

- Super Mario Galaxy 2: 97

- The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: 95

- Super Smash Bros Brawl: 93

- Metroid Prime Corruption: 90

- New Super Mario Bros Wii: 87

- Donkey Kong Country Returns: 87

- Kirby's Epic Yarn: 86

 

Now, if Nintendo doesn't make great games anymore, how come the 2 Galaxy games are among Metacritic's highest rated games of all time? 



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BoosterGold2 on 15 October 2011
Hynad said:
BoosterGold said:
Hynad said:
BoosterGold said:
TripleMMM said:
BoosterGold said:

Gameplay? you mean jumping on platforms over and over since the 80s? Mario, Donkey Kong, Kirby all you do is run from right to left and jump on things.

Lol, I got to ask, what's wrong with jumping on platforms?

Its repetitive, its nothing new the gameplay has barely evolved since the NES, its straight forward and simple compare something like Donkey Kong and Kirby to Batman Arkham City or Red Dead Redemption or Uncharted, its laughable in comparison.

Even comparing Mario to Little Big Planet is pathetic because LBP you can do a vast amount more than mario, it beats it in every possible way.

Not only that the games have no story, trophies to extend the play, HD graphics, good controls and characters that cant even talk.

You mean like the gameplay of MGS4 (a game from your profile list) barely evolved since the very first MGS?   Yeah, I get what you mean now.

You talk about story like it is important...  You probably never play any sports game, since they don't have any story cut-scenes.  The devs clearly don't improve controls, gameplay and presentation in them though, right?  

Now, your mention of Red Dead Redemption is pretty laughable.  The game may be great, but it's not a game that pushed any envelop except for the superficial coating.  A far-west game that takes every single gameplay design ideas from the GTA series.  That gamne could have been called Grand Theft Horse.

MGS4 wasnt greatly different but its gameplay in todays time is still up to par and is actually good and has more to it than jumping and moving across the sceen, Donkey Kong is still stook in the 80s.

Fight Night Champion was a sports game that had a story so there you go. Sports games dont need a story to begin with (you made a pretty stupid point here) Mario attempts at a story somewhat as does Zelda yet its always terrible, its always about saving some princess in a castle.

As for Red Dead Redemption it was basically a GTA game but like you said the game was "great" Donkey kong and Kirby are not great. Even if it changed nothing it still played good and better than most games, Donkey Kong and Kirby are worse than most HD games. The game looked great and was in HD, Donkey Kong and Kirby are no better than PS2 games. The game had a story with characters that could talk, Donkey Kong and Kirby have neither and are aimed for the under 11 crowd.

Nintendo doesnt make good games. Look at the 2011 metacritic high scores, the console struggles to get games that are considered good, it has one game over the score of 90. 2010 it has 2 games that got over 90, one was a Rockband games with mediocre a user score. In 2009 it had only one game over 90.

They dont compare to PS3 or Xbox, its just a console for small children and families.

Wait, you're using Metacritics in your argument?  Really?

Ok then. Let's have a look at Metacritics now, shall we.

Here is a list of Nintendo developed games with their Metacritics scores:

- Super Mario Galaxy: 97

- Super Mario Galaxy 2: 97

- The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: 95

- Super Smash Bros Brawl: 93

- Metroid Prime Corruption: 90

- New Super Mario Bros Wii: 87

- Donkey Kong Country Returns: 87

- Kirby's Epic Yarn: 86

 

Now, if Nintendo doesn't make great games anymore, how come the 2 Galaxy games are among Metacritic's highest rated games of all time? 

Thats nothing special at all, only 5 games above a 90? is that it? woo. They get high scores because the expectations are vastly lower than on the PS3 or Xbox, a 90 for Wii is a 80 on a HD console. Metroid there has a 90, Fallout 3 has a 90 and there worlds apart. Its just like how GTA Chinatown Wars has a 93 while RDR has a 95.

Mario Galaxy wouldnt have got a 90 on PS3. the sequel was the same as the first yet got a good score anyway. If Arkham City was the same as Arkham Asylum it would have been heavily critisized and thats the difference between them. Nintendo can bring out sequels that are no different and still get a good score.

Whats worse is that Wii has far more exclusives than PS3 or Xbox but the PS3 has 14 games with a score over 89 and Xbox 11. Far more than Wii even with the score disadvantage.

Thats terrible actually i didnt know it was that bad, Sony have more games over 90 than Nintendo, thats just embarrassing.



Moren on 15 October 2011

BoosterGold2 said:
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Wow, BoosterGold2, that sounds like another guy who was recently permabanned.

I guess... see ya then



BoosterGold2 on 15 October 2011
morenoingrato said:

BoosterGold2 said:
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Wow, BoosterGold2, that sounds like another guy who was recently permabanned.

I guess... see ya then

Doesnt matter it takes 2 mins to get back on here considering you dont have to activate and account so you can just make up any email. Ile get banned soon then come back again.



Roma on 15 October 2011

guys why not just agree with him? he is da cool dude here





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Pavolink on 15 October 2011
Roma said:
guys why not just agree with him? he is da cool dude here





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Kool Kid

 

90 on Wii = 80 HD Consoles = hahaha



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Mr Khan on 15 October 2011

I must thank everyone for quoting all of Booster Gold's posts. I'd've missed the show



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Bob-Foolery on 16 October 2011
Pavolink said:
Roma said:
guys why not just agree with him? he is da cool dude here





:P

Kool Kid

 

90 on Wii = 80 HD Consoles = hahaha

That seems right to me actually, Kirbys Epic Yarn got a 87 thats the same score as Heavy Rain, Ratchet & Clank Crack in Time, Black Ops and Kirby obviously isnt as good as those games. Supposedly Xenoblade is better than God of War 3 and it isnt. Twilight Princess is as good as Red Dead Redemption and it isnt close.

The scores will vary between consoles a 90 for a Wii game would never be 90 on Ps3 or Xbox. Just like a 90 on the PSP wouldnt be a 90 on the Wii.

God of War Chains of Olympus on PSP has a 91, Ghost of Sparta a 86 on PSP but the two together in HD equal 85 on PS3.



TripleMMM on 16 October 2011

I should've guessed I opened Pandora's Box, my apoligies, guys...

To the 2 latest clips on the OP, nice to have them translated. I wouldn't have guessed that Faron character is actually a female



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Acevil on 16 October 2011

I didn't even watch the video, but I have to say this thread was entertaining. I can't believe some people still exist like that on this site.