ils411 said: pezus said: Not updating anymore? Maybe because the lead is now up to 1.5M? Plus with adjustments all around, the figures in the OP are no longer up to date. As of now, it should look something like this     Xbox360 PS3 Lead (PS3) Jan 2nd - Oct 1st 6,388,172 7,719,510 1,331,338         Oct 8th 189,668 257,765 1,399,435 Oct 15th 193,865 239,891 1,445,461 Oct 22nd 200,245 255,585 1,500,801 Oct 29th 269,198 280,922 1,512,525         Week end Oct 29th Japan not included

So on average the 360 would have to outsell the PS3 by about 168k per week from here on. The gap will widen more next week though so it'll be even harder.

ok M5. its time to revisit this. what do you think after Oct. sells where we both clearly underestimated BF3 on PS3 boosting hardware. PS3 dominated Oct. even with GEARS3 releasing that month so whats your take on the situation at hand?

As for Gears 3...hey it boosted 360 sales by double, and it's remained at that level. Considering the price difference, 360 is still selling well. Next week, Sony will win in sales thanks to Uncharted 3, but the 2 weeks after, CoD and Halo, I will be shocked if 360 isn't in first by a noticable margine.

I know I'm terrible at predicting PS3 hardware sales, and it's likely because I am biased towards 360. Last year Move pushed a lot more sales then I would imagine, and this year BF3 did the same thing. I thought for sure this week 360 would be > PS3, especially after then PSN catastrophe, but apparently not. ahh you found me. its not like i gave you a map or link right lol?  well on BF3 we both got slaped in the face so no since beating yourself up about  it. now we'll have to look at MW3 alittle differently. i know your bias as am i alittle but facts are facts and we had a great conversation about it and agreed on way more then most pro PS360 fans ever would so i think we're good, and dare i say better then the rest lol?

hey although bias we still can rationalize the situation at hand as reasonable as humanly possible without the usual fanboy mentality seen in most conversations like this.

I still think 360 will dominate PS3 in December, but without the console price cut it won't dominate by much. I though MS would surely do something agressiive this fall, maybe a Kinect price cut, or hard drive boost for arcade models, but that also didn't happen. well Dec has a few JRPG's coming out in Japan and then theres FFX111-2 bundle and special edition console and another RPG bundle/special edition console from level5 for PS3 and Vita may still the show as the big product to watch.

theres still time for MS to cut 360 price like maybe black friday but it likely won't do any good cause of the gains PS3 has already made and theres still the White, Blue, Red Green, and Red consoles being released in the mid to final wks of Nov.. then theres the PS3 black friday bundles which are appealing to many pro Sony fans. i'm not sure what MS has but i think they have a few bundles for black friday so Nov. sells are still up in the air but it favors PS3 now that i think about it, but not by much. 

first wk by 100k to 300k with UC3 looking to sell 1m ww first wk. second wk is MW3 so you'd say it goes to 360 but after the BF3 situation i'd say the boost will even out Americas/EMEAA even with the MW3 special edition console. then wk3 the 4 multi color consoles will likely be released (i'm not sure what day but the 3rd wk sounds about right) givinng Sony there lead back as we hit wk for with PS3 still leading but likely not by much and Black Friday in the 5th wk will likely even out as well. not sure if theres 5wk's in Nov. but i think it is.

then you have Dec. starting off with the Japan boost before FFX111-2 and WW that wk goes to Sony. i'll give Sony 3 of the 5 wk's in Dec. with the last 2 even or a little lead for 360. still not sure if Dec. has 5 wk's or not.

well there you have it. the tale of the tap for whats left this holiday season.

So I'm thinking now 360 won't sell as strong as it could, and it's all because MS wants to rake in the cash. Next year, MS is due for some upgrades and price cuts, but PS3 might be able to shrink that lead to 1.5 million by then. i'm not so sure about PS3 shrinking the lead by the time 360 gets a pricecut but there are factors that could drive that to happen like that JRPG i mentiond that i have no idea what the name of it is from level5. and the special edition console that comes with it, co thats 11 exclusive up from 10 last time we did this in all its epic glory.

As for Gears 3...hey it boosted 360 sales by double, and it's remained at that level. Considering the price difference, 360 is still selling well. Next week, Sony will win in sales thanks to Uncharted 3, but the 2 weeks after, CoD and Halo, I will be shocked if 360 isn't in first by a noticable margine. Halo:CE looks to not excite core 360 fans i know. there waiting for the big gun as am i in Halo4. yea i still hate Halo and thats what i think allot of fans are waiting for but i'm still excited about what it brings new to the table. if it brings nothing then it will get bashed heavily, but if it brings something new fun and innovative then you will see the praise.

COD! seriously? did we not just learn a valuable lesson by underestimating BD3's impact on PS3 sells? never the less i'm not blind deff and dumb cause you have history and it can repeat its self. on the other hand the 360 version of BF3 still sold better on 360 in the Americas and 360 still got thrashed on the hardware side so lets not give to much credit to 360 and favor it as the winner but its likely to be that way.

I'm confused. What about the price difference? Isn't the 360 still cheaper than the PS3? or are you just pointing out that the PS3 is not that more expenseive? coz $50 is still a lot of money for some (me in particular)