You may as well be talking to a brick wall.

Lol at people that think Forza gas taken anything from GT. How are you going to add all the Forza sales together but disregard the amount of GT games added together. Face it game for game Forza can't hold a candle to GT sale. Matter of fact it's Sad they had to rehash the game 3 times in one gen to even come close. Now if we where being fair we would add prologue, GT5 and GT psp. Equals Forza crushed in sales. Reviewers have reviewed GT on godly standards, but Forza not so much. The only review that matters will be Insidesimracing.tv.

This sort of reminds me of NFL 2k series versus Madden when the NFL would give out more then 1 official license. Every year NFL 2k had better reviews, was even priced better, but it just couldn't hold a candle to what Madden was and still is. I played the Forza 4 demo just last night and I must admit I was pretty impressed with it. In many ways it may well be better then the GT games just as NFL 2K games in many ways were better then Madden games. But Gran Turismo is the landmark game that all racing games are measured against just as Madden is for NFL Football. GT is the game that raised and set the bar and completely redefined the racing genre which is why they still and probably always will be the king of all racers. Something that is truly missing from the Forza series and in my opinion GT5 is that somewhere down the line (all this generation) these racing games actually quit being about having fun and became more of a pageant show on who could make the better tech demo.

Ethomaz is kind of like Selnor when it comes to GT5.

xD when it comes to Forza Selnor never changes his opinion.