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Source would be fine if he kept his personal Nintendo bias away from his work. The numbers, as we all know are never based on final data and can be accurate or nowhere near...

The problem comes when he places anything Nintendo in a shining spotlight, and makes it look like the Nintendo product is shitting all over a competitors product.

I think he does a good job with the numbers, just the rest of it is generally Nintendo humping.

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Seece said:

I think his is based on a couple of stores, whereas I get mine directly from ioi. Source has to extrapolate his, meaning he puts his own spin (what he hopes) on the numbers some of the time. Hence being 200% plus off on Gears.

Why should he get credit when he subtly trolls consoles in a sales article??? It's starting to really annoy some people, and saying 'oh well why do you read it then' is just .. no, all members of this site should be able to enjoy reading the articles here, it's not suppose to just cater to Nintendo fans you know?

I like the Japanese preview, as do many others, we just wish bias was left out of it, which source is incapable of.

The America's preview get the numbers directly from ioi, while the JP preview gets them from stores, so no wonder he can't be all that accurate. His Gears numbers were probably based on some history/recent 360 sales data, and now that the 360 has less stock in Japan, he may have gotten stuff mixed up.

His comments might be a little too much, but he was still pointing out that Dark Souls did well against an established franchise.

And it is not only him that is getting old; remember the Tales second week? Everyone attacked him saying his numbers are bias, and surprise, he was right, and for unknown reasons the Japan Preview was barely mentioned that week, same COULD happen to Dark Souls.



morenoingrato said:
pezus said:
morenoingrato said:

OMG, stop it with The_Source bashing, it is getting old, he is still a hard working staff of the site (even if he sometimes breaks Nintendo fan's hearts ) but you people are laughable.
When you overestimate something in the America preview I'll be the first to laugh at you, and The_Source will probably never fall that low.

He does overstimate Nintendo stuff regulary, but hell then don't read the preview, no one forces you to read it, and if you think it is so easy to manage spot on numbers, then you people should do them yourselves.

It's not necessarily just the numbers, it's the text that comes with them.

I think the "Old pack vs. Dark Souls" was indeed a bit too far, but, c'mon, he did state that Dark Souls did well vs. a stablished franchise.

no he didn't..it was seece (If I'm not mistaken) who changed it to that...and you are wrong many are pointing out his biase in both his numbers AND text. it's obvious..and hilarious. I for one don't find it aggrevating at all..it's just amusing :)



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M.U.G.E.N said:

no he didn't..it was seece (If I'm not mistaken) who changed it to that...and you are wrong many are pointing out his biase in both his numbers AND text. it's obvious..and hilarious. I for one don't find it aggrevating at all..it's just amusing :)

His numbers are estimates and can be all over the place, from 100% right to totally wrong, so he cannot be bias in that matter.

And about the text, he is bias, but that doesn't erase the fact he does the preview every week only to be surrounded by complains and hate comments.



morenoingrato said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

no he didn't..it was seece (If I'm not mistaken) who changed it to that...and you are wrong many are pointing out his biase in both his numbers AND text. it's obvious..and hilarious. I for one don't find it aggrevating at all..it's just amusing :)

His numbers are estimates and can be all over the place, from 100% right to totally wrong, so he cannot be bias in that matter.

And about the text, he is bias, but that doesn't erase the fact he does the preview every week only to be surrounded by complains and hate comments.

You know if he stopped being biased in his articles the hate against him would go down massively. It's that simple.



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morenoingrato said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

no he didn't..it was seece (If I'm not mistaken) who changed it to that...and you are wrong many are pointing out his biase in both his numbers AND text. it's obvious..and hilarious. I for one don't find it aggrevating at all..it's just amusing :)

His numbers are estimates and can be all over the place, from 100% right to totally wrong, so he cannot be bias in that matter.

And about the text, he is bias, but that doesn't erase the fact he does the preview every week only to be surrounded by complains and hate comments.



Can we expect to see you defending Pachter the next time he makes a negative-Nintendo prediction? Can we?



                            

morenoingrato said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

no he didn't..it was seece (If I'm not mistaken) who changed it to that...and you are wrong many are pointing out his biase in both his numbers AND text. it's obvious..and hilarious. I for one don't find it aggrevating at all..it's just amusing :)

His numbers are estimates and can be all over the place, from 100% right to totally wrong, so he cannot be bias in that matter.

And about the text, he is bias, but that doesn't erase the fact he does the preview every week only to be surrounded by complains and hate comments.


as yo-john said, if he actually removes the bias...people will have little to nothing to complain or make fun of about. preview will be boring as hell tho for me personally. and when he shows such bias in his text, his numbers doesn't exactly seem like they are trustworthy as well, especially since his numbers for anything ninty are overstated most of the time. so yeah remove the bias and people won't complain about those numbers either.

I mean really..the guy is comparing demons souls to DQ to play down the sales! he does things like that all the time....i remember recently he mentioned some game called frogger or something as a major release yet not even mention Type-0! lol

but don't misunderstand..I thoroughly enjoy the preview..not for the reasons I should be tho



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M.U.G.E.N said:
morenoingrato said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

no he didn't..it was seece (If I'm not mistaken) who changed it to that...and you are wrong many are pointing out his biase in both his numbers AND text. it's obvious..and hilarious. I for one don't find it aggrevating at all..it's just amusing :)

His numbers are estimates and can be all over the place, from 100% right to totally wrong, so he cannot be bias in that matter.

And about the text, he is bias, but that doesn't erase the fact he does the preview every week only to be surrounded by complains and hate comments.


as yo-john said, if he actually removes the bias...people will have little to nothing to complain or make fun of about. preview will be boring as hell tho for me personally. and when he shows such bias in his text, his numbers doesn't exactly seem like they are trustworthy as well, especially since his numbers for anything ninty are overstated most of the time. so yeah remove the bias and people won't complain about those numbers either.

I mean really..the guy is comparing demons souls to DQ to play down the sales! he does things like that all the time....i remember recently he mentioned some game called frogger or something as a major release yet not even mention Type-0! lol

but don't misunderstand..I thoroughly enjoy the preview..not for the reasons I should be tho

But he did mention the great Dark Souls numbers before. And also, he did mention Type-0 this week I think, and has it ever occured you that he did not have any data of Type 0 at that point?

And it is pretty bad if you are reading an article just to make fun of the writter and not for the numbers or the data.



morenoingrato said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
morenoingrato said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

no he didn't..it was seece (If I'm not mistaken) who changed it to that...and you are wrong many are pointing out his biase in both his numbers AND text. it's obvious..and hilarious. I for one don't find it aggrevating at all..it's just amusing :)

His numbers are estimates and can be all over the place, from 100% right to totally wrong, so he cannot be bias in that matter.

And about the text, he is bias, but that doesn't erase the fact he does the preview every week only to be surrounded by complains and hate comments.


as yo-john said, if he actually removes the bias...people will have little to nothing to complain or make fun of about. preview will be boring as hell tho for me personally. and when he shows such bias in his text, his numbers doesn't exactly seem like they are trustworthy as well, especially since his numbers for anything ninty are overstated most of the time. so yeah remove the bias and people won't complain about those numbers either.

I mean really..the guy is comparing demons souls to DQ to play down the sales! he does things like that all the time....i remember recently he mentioned some game called frogger or something as a major release yet not even mention Type-0! lol

but don't misunderstand..I thoroughly enjoy the preview..not for the reasons I should be tho

But he did mention the great Dark Souls numbers before. And also, he did mention Type-0 this week I think, and has it ever occured you that he did not have any data of Type 0 at that point?

And it is pretty bad if you are reading an article just to make fun of the writter and not for the numbers or the data.

hmm i think you are fighting a losing battle here buddy.

about type-0..he constantly ignores it. the incident i mentioned was on titles that will sell well in coming months...it doesn't take a genius to figure out how Type-0 will be part of that....he didn't mention it as one of the bigger games for October either. I mean really?

and you are wrong. if what he does is funny, he will be made fun of. if people don't find it funny and just annoying, they will call him out on it. that's not bad at all. his obvious bias is so damn obvious, i used to get so annoyed with it..but then..it just became one big joke to me and hasn't stopped since. and keep in mind i HAVE given him credit in some weeks he have gotten data well..recently he had one preview which was very balanced and I gave him cred for that as well. but alas it lasted just one week.

i mean come on man..just take this week for example..if seece hadn't edited it out it read something like DS sold xxx which is comparable to DQ BUT the latter is just a collection or something...and the game may see a xillia like drop etc etc..i mean it seems it hurts him to give sony or ms credit or something. can't give a compliment without trying to downplay it. i mean ffs Xillia afaik had the highest selling FW in Tales history! who cares if it dropped to 20k a week after that. those are fantastic sales.

it honestly baffles me how some of you are trying to defend him here.



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Carl2291 said:
Source would be fine if he kept his personal Nintendo bias away from his work. The numbers, as we all know are never based on final data and can be accurate or nowhere near...

The problem comes when he places anything Nintendo in a shining spotlight, and makes it look like the Nintendo product is shitting all over a competitors product.

I think he does a good job with the numbers, just the rest of it is generally Nintendo humping.

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Excellent openings for Dark Souls, Gears 3 and ICO Collection!

I agree with this. I personally think the preview is a nice feature if you take it for what it is (a prediction based on a very small sample) but I wish it would be more objectively written. There's no point whatsoever to let your personal preference affect your analysis as reality doesn't give a damn about what you like or dislike. I just can't understand what people think when they include their own bias in their predictions. Do you really believe it'll work? Do you seriously believe it will do anything but make you look stupid? Do you believe in unicorns? Fairies?

 

OT: I watched some youtube vids of that ecchi game for 3DS...Damn you Japan! I want that game too.