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Do you think death row inmates should recieve special last meals?

Yes 67 69.79%
 
No 27 28.13%
 
Total:94

They're surely going to die, they might as well get that last meal.



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kitler53 said:
TRios_Zen said:
kitler53 said:

not at all, but i have been all over the world and i've never been anywhere where the people are more self-centered and uncompassionate as in texas.  i don't know where their "fuck you" attitude comes from but just because the guy you're being a jackass to is a criminal doesn't make you any less of a jackass.

This is an interesting opinion, not because I'm trying to say you are wrong, as you are entitled to your own opinion, but only asking: you have personally travelled to Texas and found Texans to have a "Fuck You" attitude?

my company services the power and oil industries which puts me in texas about 3-4 weeks a year.  as chance would have it i'll be in houston all of next week.

And so your assessment of the entire state, based upon your spending 3-4 weeks a year here are that we are all self-centered and compassionless?

Look I can dig that you don't agree with the Death Penalty or that you don't like/want to live in Texas, THESE are totally understandable feelings/beliefs.  To demonize the people of an entire state because your political views are different though...  Really?  

That's all I'm really challenging you on though - that assessment.  Whatever your personal beliefs/politics are, they are yours and I wouldn't try to disuade you from them.



TRios_Zen said:
kitler53 said:
TRios_Zen said:
kitler53 said:

not at all, but i have been all over the world and i've never been anywhere where the people are more self-centered and uncompassionate as in texas.  i don't know where their "fuck you" attitude comes from but just because the guy you're being a jackass to is a criminal doesn't make you any less of a jackass.

This is an interesting opinion, not because I'm trying to say you are wrong, as you are entitled to your own opinion, but only asking: you have personally travelled to Texas and found Texans to have a "Fuck You" attitude?

my company services the power and oil industries which puts me in texas about 3-4 weeks a year.  as chance would have it i'll be in houston all of next week.

And so your assessment of the entire state, based upon your spending 3-4 weeks a year here are that we are all self-centered and compassionless?

Look I can dig that you don't agree with the Death Penalty or that you don't like/want to live in Texas, THESE are totally understandable feelings/beliefs.  To demonize the people of an entire state because your political views are different though...  Really?  

That's all I'm really challenging you on though - that assessment.  Whatever your personal beliefs/politics are, they are yours and I wouldn't try to disuade you from them.


perhaps you misunderstood what i wrote earlier.  i'm not making judgments based on 3-4 weeks a year.  i'm making comarisions between those 3-4 weeks a year and the 3-4 weeks i spend in other parts of the US, the 3-4 weeks I spend in europe, and the 2-3 weeks in asia.  the lack of respect i find in texans (especially when on a professional level) is why i'm glad i don't live there.



I'm against killing people in the name of the law... Anyways, If they're gonna be executed either way, I say why not give them a last meal? Doesn't cost THAT much imo

But let me make one thing clear, I have no sympathy for these criminals whatsoever nor do I feel bad for them. These are extremely dangerous people who have committed many horrible and outrageous crimes



Player1x3 said:
vlad321 said:
Player1x3 said:
vlad321 said:
Sounds about right. That meal is literally money, time, etc. down the drain.

 

Death penalty is a horrible tradition and should be made illegal. Killing a person ''by law'' isnt any different than just killing it. This isnt inquisition anymore, for Christ sake !!! IT ALSO VIOLATES INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS LAW.      

 


I suggest you learn that a given action has 2 parts to it. A purpose and consequences, not just consequences. Looking at actions just based on consequence is very naive and ignorant. Then your whole "then it's the same" schtick falls to pieces.


I acknowledge both actions and consequences. Its just that killing someone as punishment for killing someone is pure hypocritical and don't even try to argue about that.

Good god man, you can't go TWO sentences without contradicting yourself. In sentence one you acknowledge that murder is not the same action as killing someone for murder. Then in sentence two you claim it is hypocritical, or the same. Cognitive dissonance much? Do you even realize that your 2 sentences are contradictory?



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I don't see the problem here. If you did something bad enough to get on death row than you deserve nothing.



This is absolutely a dick move. If anything it's the sort of reaction Whitmore was probably hoping for.

@ vlad, they got to taste it and enjoy the food. I think that despite the horrible crimes MOST of these people have committed, when you're executing someone a little courtesy is called for. 



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vlad321 said:
Player1x3 said:
vlad321 said:
Player1x3 said:
vlad321 said:
Sounds about right. That meal is literally money, time, etc. down the drain.

 

Death penalty is a horrible tradition and should be made illegal. Killing a person ''by law'' isnt any different than just killing it. This isnt inquisition anymore, for Christ sake !!! IT ALSO VIOLATES INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS LAW.      

 


I suggest you learn that a given action has 2 parts to it. A purpose and consequences, not just consequences. Looking at actions just based on consequence is very naive and ignorant. Then your whole "then it's the same" schtick falls to pieces.


I acknowledge both actions and consequences. Its just that killing someone as punishment for killing someone is pure hypocritical and don't even try to argue about that.

Good god man, you can't go TWO sentences without contradicting yourself. In sentence one you acknowledge that murder is not the same action as killing someone for murder. Then in sentence two you claim it is hypocritical, or the same. Cognitive dissonance much? Do you even realize that your 2 sentences are contradictory?


I can, its just that you are either seeing some unexistant point, or you are totally missing mine. I am all for harsh punishment of a said action, just not the one in which person is killed. Taking away human life is never acceptable, except in self defence and saving innocent life.Whoever does it for any other reason should be severely punished. However, a convict on life sentence cant do any more harm to the society, and if the person he/she killed is already dead(duh), killing a convict wont bring the victim back, so there is no point



Final-Fan said:

This is absolutely a dick move. If anything it's the sort of reaction Whitmore was probably hoping for.

@ vlad, they got to taste it and enjoy the food. I think that despite the horrible crimes MOST of these people have committed, when you're executing someone a little courtesy is called for. 


I am all down for showing some courtesy, the moment there is even a tiny, miniscule, chance that they showed some courtesy to whoever they killed. If not, no point in wasting good food and money on someone who will be dead anywho, the most literal situtation you can come to call a "waste."



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Player1x3 said:
vlad321 said:

Good god man, you can't go TWO sentences without contradicting yourself. In sentence one you acknowledge that murder is not the same action as killing someone for murder. Then in sentence two you claim it is hypocritical, or the same. Cognitive dissonance much? Do you even realize that your 2 sentences are contradictory?


I can, its just that you are either seeing some unexistant point, or you are totally missing mine. I am all for harsh punishment of a said action, just not the one in which person is killed. Taking away human life is never acceptable, except in self defence and saving innocent life.Whoever does it for any other reason should be severely punished. However, a convict on life sentence cant do any more harm to the society, and if the person he/she killed is already dead(duh), killing a convict wont bring the victim back, so there is no point

You could have just said "no, i don't see the contradiction in what I said." and it would have been shorter. You said it was hypocritical, saying that the two actions, execution and murder, are the same. However, we agreed that an action has two parts, purpose and consequence. Execution and murder have the same consequence, yes, however the purposes are VERY different, making the actions different and therefore not hypocritical.

Killing the convict is just to make sure society knows what will happen when you do something heinous. Even monkeys who get shocked every time an object is touched learn not to touch said object. It's negative reinforcement for all of society.



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