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Each year in the US, more than 40 million used cars are sold. If we assume that the average price of a new car is about $20k, that would mean car manufacturers are losing 832 billion dollars per year to "second-hand sales." That's $832,000,000,000 per year.

Source: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=146894

The situation for houses is even "worse." Each year in the US, about 5 million existing homes are sold. If we assume the average price of a new home is about $200k, that means home manufacturers are losing about a TRILLION dollars per year to "second-hand sales."

Source: http://www.realtor.org/press_room/news_releases/2011/08/july_ehs

Oh, the tragedy!



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greatest ist cliff bleszinski complaining about it on twitter few weeks ago but driving a lambo. maybe he should think about selling it so he will have money if he's so poor because we buy used copies as well.

ohh but wait, if he will sell his lambo, he sells a used car to someone else who doesnt buy a new lambo then, what a bad guy this cliff bleszinski is damn...



I'm glad I bought this game used for roughly $25. It was a good game, but there is no way I'd buy it new. I beat it once in a few hours and never touched it again.



They should be glad 3 million people played their game. That means that if they release a sequel, they'll have a larger pool of potential buyers than if everyone was forced to pay full price for the game.



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The point is: Second hand sales hurt revenue.

Also, you can let people borrow games, i don't think he took that into account.



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This is the perfect rent game, i'm sorry, but its true. I bought the game, played it through twice. Also borrowed it too 2 friends both of which completed it without paying a cent. Pretty sure i'm not the only one with this story.



It is horseshit that they dare to frame that as "lost" money. They should be taken to task for whining like this



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it doesnt hurt because the second hands market is for all products. it makes no sense to say that they sell less because if they say it every industry has to say it as well and if we all would only buy new products we could buy much less for our self which includes games.

what do they think where the money goes? they complain about gamestop shops because they sell used copies as well but without that there wouldn't be a gamestop on every corner and without these shops not so many people would buy consoles and games.

do they really think they would sell more games without gamestops selling usd copies and whatever? do they know how many people only buy a console because they have a market where they can buy and sell games? i bet without the used copies market there would be a lot less consoles and these people who bought a console becuase they know they cann buy and sell used copies as well buy new games as well sometimes.

i have a ps3 and a 360 and for both new and used copies. if there wouldn't be a used copies market i wouldn't own a ps3 and i think i bought 7 games new for my ps3 including heavy rain. without a used copies market i wouldn't have bought a new heavy rain.

wihout a used games market i bet the gaming industry would be smaller than it is



Poor Quantic Dream.



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Funny how much second-hand market participants sound like pirates when they get called out. Very entertaining.



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