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Forums - Microsoft - Forza Motorsport 4 Will Not Have Night Racing or Weather Effects. Turn 10 Explains.

A friend of mind showed me a link to the new forza 4 game, The link shows what the game will and will not have.

One of the features that Turn 10 said forza will not be having is Night racing and Weather Effects. Turn 10 said this about the question... (Below)

Forza Motorsport includes alternate times of day for a small number of environments, but those alternates do not include dark night or weather effects.

For Forza 4, the majority of our graphical investment went into our new image-based lighting (IBL) model, as well as new material shaders, which give our cars and tracks such a realistic, detailed look. With IBL, supporting the general look of night is not particularly hard. However, we take frame rate pretty seriously—we believe that having a solid 60 frames per second (FPS) experience with no tearing is very important for a simulation racing game. Delivering night is about more than just getting the general look right. As we found on the original Forza Motorsport, having multiple headlight projections with multiple cast shadows is computationally heavy—even using clever tricks like we did on the less powerful original Xbox platform. This makes delivering a strong night racing experience very difficult at 60 FPS without significant compromise. 

 

Regarding weather conditions, we do simulate different track temperatures. However, we did not get tire data for wet conditions from our tire partners at Pirelli. We do have SAE data about wet conditions, but it’s nowhere near as comprehensive as our Pirelli data. In order to simulate wet correctly, we’d like to get custom real-world test data to input into our system. Of course, physics isn’t the only difficult aspect of delivering wet conditions. Creating believable weather effects also depends upon gobs of particles and lots of shiny, reflective surfaces. There are several tricks for doing this, but it would still have made delivering the new graphical fidelity of FM4 at a solid 60 FPS nearly impossible in our development timeframe. 

 

If we cut down on the number of cars on track, used original Xbox-generation car models, dropped to 30 FPS, or (and this would be the most effective solution) built specific tracks from the ground-up to have less detail and thus extra performance headroom, then night racing and/or weather conditions may have been possible. Some of those trade-offs, we just were not willing to do. Others would require time that we used to develop other features in the game—specifically, the new graphical look of the game in general. Night and weather are features we will continue to evaluate as the franchise continues. We’re waiting for the right time to deliver these features to our fans.

 

Here is the link: http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood2/   (This link also explains everything forza 4 will have and wont have)

 

Let me know what yall thin about this.

 



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Isn't there a 24 hour race in Forza?



                            

Did F3 have these?

For me having night racing and weather conditions is quite necessary. I mean, if GT didn't have those I would still get it because that's how much I like it, so I guess it's the same for Forza fans. But I would be quite dissapointed too. Driving at night while the rain drops hit your windshield is awesome.



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I think they should make it on pc with all that :D.

But I didn't get GT5 and I will not get this. So I'm probably not the target audience.



definitive.



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Cutting gameplay for graphics? Poor show Turn 10!



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Time for hype

i guess there just not needed in every franchise, but there welcome in GT5 or any other racer that sees a need for weather affects.

PS3 news your on a roll! keep em coming!



When I first got GT5, I was like... hmm... it looks good but could have been better. Then I hopped online to a nurburgring 24 Hr track, and it was night time. I got in my M5 and raced a G35. Night time just had a completely different feel and it just felt "right" like you were there in person trying to race. Seeing the taillights bounce and going around a bend that you can some what see by your headlights was just at a whole new level for me. They should really do night time driving.



Disappointing...



you're LAG OP,people in here already know that 2 weeks ago

there's already under the hood 3
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood3/

...oh forget read OP and replyers name