1. Alright prove that the majority of scientists around the globe are Athiests? Considering the majority of the worlds population believe in a diety and the fact that their are thousands of middle eastern Muslim scientists, African Christian scientists and scientists from accross Europe. Infact even in North America their are thousands of Christian and other religious scientists.How in the world can you claim that as false? Just because their is a very vocal minority in North America and Western Europe does not mean that those scientists speak for everyone in the scientific community.

Infact I have met several Christian scientists, even more Agnostic scientists but only one Athiest scientist. My prof was an agnostic and every marine biologist and such I talk to and zoologist none of them are athiests. I wanted to become a zoologist at one time, I tried very hard to get to know these scientists.

Of course that means you have to consider biologists scientists, which they are. Fact is that I live in Canada and if their are very few athiest ones in western Canada I highly doubt that they are the majority in the rest of the world. Especially when you include the religious countries.

As many biologists I talked to explained it is stupid to believe in or not believe in a God. Any true scientist knows that you can't prove or disprove the existance and having faith in the existance or lack of existance is pure ignorance. That being said I also met Christian biologists and scientists.

2. I should have been more clear. I was refering to the basis of the faiths and not the existance of God. Archeological evidence is over whelming that a man named Jesus lived in the Roman empire and taught people, he was also widely proven to have been killed and his followers text written only 30 years after his demise has been proven to be historically accurate. Also the prophet Mohammed also is a historical figure and all historical evidence supports that he lived and taught the Quran. He did amazing things and history backs this up.

Even the most die hard athiests cannot possibly deny that Jesus lived and died and that he claimed to be God. Some think his body was found recently but nobody can deny his existance, it is historic fact.

3. Glad you understand this

4. Their were several theories of evolution that were utter crap. Like the theory that if you are smart that these traits would pass onto your child and he would become smarter. Their was also a theory that animals could evolve within generations example a crab moves from one part of the ocean to another part in search of food, it needs bigger pincers to survive, so its offspring would obviously be born with bigger pincers. That theory was created around Darwins time but swiftly proven false. Other theories about human evolution were also proven false. Evolution is to evolve as such any scientific theory about something evolving is a form of evolution. Macro and Micro evolution are the two main theories today and as I said I believe in Micro and not Macro. They all are about evolution but that does not mean all the theories all hold weight.

5. I don't understand what non-Christian's have to do with western superiority. You lost me, I was simply saying that not only Christians were offended since the OP directly stated it was Christians who were whining and complaining. It has nothing to do with the west at all, Just trying to get a point across!

Man, dude your arrogant not even reading another users posts because you think you are so much better then that user. No if you read my response it wasn't any whining. I rarely ever say anything about a user but you have no respect left in my books am I whining? Awes I'm sorry I disagree with you.

So if you disagree with someone rather then being mature and talking with that user you not only ignore them but then go into the thread and tell everyone your ignoring them.

Geez I'm not whining I am pissed. At least when I talk with Sapphi and other users I debate with they treat me with the same respect I treat them. I read your arrogant and uneducated bullshit and respond but you have the gull to actually say your ignoring me.

How the hell did you get a job with VGChartz? I'm not going to comment on why this thread wasn't locked. I'm going to comment on the fact that you are totally unqualified to write for VGChartz. In fact your attitude and unprofessional behavior you shouldn't be representing anyone. Smeags and the other writers actually work hard and are respectable they treat the users with dignity and respect. You not only treated me like crap but many other users.

You don't deserve to be working for VGChartz. Not saying I do, but if this thread is any indication of your professionalism then you should be fired tomorrow.

As the ninth highest ranking user I will personally consider leaving if crap like this continues. A message to ioi and any staff at VGChartz, I am launching a site in the coming months launch date January 1st 2012. I am looking for business partners to get in with, however my site is not going to be like any other site currently on the internet. I already have contacts at BioWare, EACanada and thirty of Canada's biggest independent studios. I was hoping to talk to someone soon about affiliating my site with yours upon launch. Such as sharing news stories with Smeags and using VGChartz data in news articles I report.

I was planning on becoming a paid member as well. As many like Viper and Smeags know I took journalism in both High school and University. I also worked for Das-Games and four other gaming sites before being hired by the Abbotsford Times NewsPaper to be their video game and film critic.

I am a professional journalist. I may not work for VGChartz but I have more then six years experiance. Runa, as a journalist to another supposed journalist this is crap.

Now I'm not going to make any threats as I would still like to work with VGChartz and am an active user and plan to remain active. However writers treating their readers and users in this fashion is not going to help VGChartz. Nor will it increase chances of people actually wanting to work with/for you.

I truly hope Runa does not actually represent VGChartz or their business practices and journalistic integrity. If Runa decides to actually pull his head out of his ass and reply logically and intellectually to my last post or this post then I will likely respond. I am not a low life scum bag I actually listen to my readers and give replies. I don't go around attacking those I disagree with.

P.S- that last comment is to show you how backwards this is, I expect to be banned for saying such a thing as I should. In getting banned I will prove my point. See you all after my ban!

While I agree you can't substantiate an abstract thought, I'm calling out those who claim that God(or zeus or whatever) is a real thing and should be treated as such. If you believe in God, or Mohammed or whatever religion you follow, I fully endorse that and I'm certainly not aiming to belittle that.  I AM, however, getting sick of those who believe shoving it in everybody else's face, pushing it as absolute, undeniable truth while failing to back it up.  

God is a concept, a human creation...but there are many who insist there really IS a higher power controlling us, a sentient, divine being that is omniscient, onminpresent, and omnipotent.  

That's the difference. 

So if you know they can't back it up, and you know that God can't be proven, then why are you asking for proof that God exists? This whole thread is one big logic fail.

What I said was a fact.

Science does not PROVE anything. Yet you just used the words "proof, proven, prove" a lot in that response. Science can NEVER ever prove anything to 100% certainty and all educated scientists themselves know and accept this as fact.

It was never religion that claimed we were the center of the universe or that the earth was flat, it was the people's intelligence and Science at those points in time. So yes, those are/were theories and they have since evolved into what we understand today. Theories gain evidence to either support or refute their claims, but they never ever irrefutably prove anything. I was merely trying to emphasize that fact.

Also, I have avoided making my personal beliefs known up to this point, but I will divulge now. What I believe is a combination of both Scientific theories and God for the explanation of creation. There is no reason a god could not have used events such as the big bang or evolution to create the universe as it is today. The Bible intentionally leaves things up for interpretation, I feel. Such as when it says that God created the heavens and the earth, and created the earth in 6 days. But what is a "day" to an all powerful being that exists beyond time itself and has no essence of "time"? Millions of years forming the earth could be a blink of an eye to this being. He/She could very well have used volcanic eruptions, slow erosion, and evolution of species over millions of years to form what we have now. Time is merely a concept that we humans created. There is no reason one cannot believe in both Scientific theories such as the Big Bang/Evolution and in a higher power. But that's just my own personal beliefs from not accepting everything that was thrown at me at face value and making my own informed decisions on the topics.