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Legend11 said:
Because Japan is a major force when it comes to console games. If Microsoft is ever to completely dominate with a future console they need to have all the major (and many minor) Japanese developers onboard.

Yep, it's all about developers.

 

 



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MrPickles said:
(I believe the 360 has already outdone the original 'box's total sales in Japan?)

Hmm, interesting question, looking at Worldwide Hardware Shipments: This week they reached the amount, that the original XBOX did. I dont know if they sold some thousand less or more, because the numbers only show 10K, but they reached that mark. Congratulations Microsoft!



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.....Because Japanese developed games do best in Japan?

Microsoft has always had a drain, and no hold over Japanese developers - they get a few exclusives here and there from Namco, and Capcom.

In the West, they have virtually everything - how many developers in the West develop tons of exclusives for the Wii and PS3? Very, very, VERY few.

MS has the chokehold on Western developers. But it's bigger than just Japan: Microsoft is gaining traction in Asia. Taiwan, and South Korea, by all accounts, are not folding to the PS3/Wii as quickly as Japan. These countries enjoy Japanese games almost as much as the Japanese do - so your adding increased hardware sales in multiple countries by adding to the J-Dev's making more X360 games.


So if MS ever wants to be well rounded, they need Japanese developers. In order to get Japanese developers, they need to move more hardware in Japan - go look at the Sega Genesis for the reasons. Sega had no traction in Japan, because Nintendo had a chokehold on developers. Because of that, Sega lost out on alot of Japanese sales, and it eventually trickled down to US and European sales.

*gasp* some Japanese games do well in the US and Europe too! Microsoft might want some of those sales, rather than the Wii/PS3 sucking up all of those sales.



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mrstickball said:
.....Because Japanese developed games do best in Japan?

Microsoft has always had a drain, and no hold over Japanese developers - they get a few exclusives here and there from Namco, and Capcom.

In the West, they have virtually everything - how many developers in the West develop tons of exclusives for the Wii and PS3? Very, very, VERY few.

MS has the chokehold on Western developers. But it's bigger than just Japan: Microsoft is gaining traction in Asia. Taiwan, and South Korea, by all accounts, are not folding to the PS3/Wii as quickly as Japan. These countries enjoy Japanese games almost as much as the Japanese do - so your adding increased hardware sales in multiple countries by adding to the J-Dev's making more X360 games.


So if MS ever wants to be well rounded, they need Japanese developers. In order to get Japanese developers, they need to move more hardware in Japan - go look at the Sega Genesis for the reasons. Sega had no traction in Japan, because Nintendo had a chokehold on developers. Because of that, Sega lost out on alot of Japanese sales, and it eventually trickled down to US and European sales.

*gasp* some Japanese games do well in the US and Europe too! Microsoft might want some of those sales, rather than the Wii/PS3 sucking up all of those sales.

 Very well said.  The fact that they are getting support from Japanese developers is what sold me on the console, although right now, I may be on the outer rim of 360 owners.  Western games have always been second to me, although I am finally warming up to a few like R&C, Uncharted, and Mass Effect.  If it weren't for Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyssey, Ninja Gaiden, and Infinite Undiscovery, the 360 would not be seeing the light of day in my entertainment center.

 

I do think Microsoft is not doing enough marketing in the West for the Japanese games on their system.  I didn't hear anything about Eternal Sonata or Blue Dragon from them.  The only people that know about Lost Odyssey are people visiting these forums. 



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Because Japanese devs rule.



Microsoft is a long way from winning over Japan. It would probably help their cause if they first beat the PS3 in the EU and gained reputation. This would help them more in the long term. It really doesn't matter anyway since Japan is moving from consoles to handhelds anyway.



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            I couldn't agree with you more.  japan doesn't like the 360, so let it be.  MS should exploit western

gaming because this is were the money is at.