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sapphi_snake on 14 August 2011
Alby_da_Wolf said:
sapphi_snake said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Silver-Tiger said:
ok, her video is incredibly annoying, the music is annoying, the jokes are annoying...

But she doesn't deserve to be bullied. She just wanted to have fun, and she didn't hurt anybody (expect for a few ears, but that aside).


She looks like a Barbary ape and she sings even worse, but if they bully her, they should at least kill Mariah Carey and all the other notorious whining singers that plague pop music.

Ummm, Mariah Carey has an incredible voice.

I can concede you about the voice in itself, although I don't particularly like it, but it's that whining style of singing that she contributed a lot to make popular that I really hate. Dionne Warwick, Carla Thomas, Amii Stewart and many others, not to mention goddesses like Ella Fitzgerald and Aretha Franklin, all have (or had) incredible voices, far better than Mariah, but they DON'T whine!

I doubt that style of singing started with Mariah. Singers, especially Divas, usually have a way of exaggerating when they sing (see Celine Dion, whose hand gestures durign singing  make her even more guilty of this).



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dahuman on 14 August 2011

At least everyday is a weekend now so she doesn't need to look forward to them anymore.



AdventWolf on 14 August 2011
sapphi_snake said:
AdventWolf said:
sapphi_snake said:
AdventWolf said:
Wow, people are lame. I'm not a fan, but people who hate her must be extremely jealous or something.

Jealous of what? There are people who embarassed themselves on American Idol that were better than her.


Jealous of her success and money, not talent.

Her family was already rich, and considering how hated she is, I don't really think you can call her successful. What 14-year-old would want to recieve death threats?


Then why would people go to such lengths to antagonize her?



Alby_da_Wolf on 14 August 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
sapphi_snake said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Silver-Tiger said:
ok, her video is incredibly annoying, the music is annoying, the jokes are annoying...

But she doesn't deserve to be bullied. She just wanted to have fun, and she didn't hurt anybody (expect for a few ears, but that aside).


She looks like a Barbary ape and she sings even worse, but if they bully her, they should at least kill Mariah Carey and all the other notorious whining singers that plague pop music.

Ummm, Mariah Carey has an incredible voice.

I can concede you about the voice in itself, although I don't particularly like it, but it's that whining style of singing that she contributed a lot to make popular that I really hate. Dionne Warwick, Carla Thomas, Amii Stewart and many others, not to mention goddesses like Ella Fitzgerald and Aretha Franklin, all have (or had) incredible voices, far better than Mariah, but they DON'T whine!

I doubt that style of singing started with Mariah. Singers, especially Divas, usually have a way of exaggerating when they sing (see Celine Dion, whose hand gestures durign singing  make her even more guilty of this).

Fair enough, although Celine Dion's style is more "sugary" than "whining".    I mentioned Mariah because she's the whining one that I happened to listen the most, against my will, as for some periods TVs and radios broadcasted her songs a lot here. Also, Mariah's voice is quite higher pitched than Celine's, it makes the whining more obnoxious. Anyway, again, it's a lot matter of my personal tastes, also in the operas, tenors and sopranos are the voices I like the least, also for their tendency to Divas attitudes, as you poited out, and their uncanny love for trills (even the best opera writers of XIX century were often forced to add trills and the like under sopranos' and tenors' pressure to titillate their virtuosity and egos).



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sapphi_snake on 14 August 2011
AdventWolf said:
sapphi_snake said:
AdventWolf said:
sapphi_snake said:
AdventWolf said:
Wow, people are lame. I'm not a fan, but people who hate her must be extremely jealous or something.

Jealous of what? There are people who embarassed themselves on American Idol that were better than her.


Jealous of her success and money, not talent.

Her family was already rich, and considering how hated she is, I don't really think you can call her successful. What 14-year-old would want to recieve death threats?


Then why would people go to such lengths to antagonize her?

As bad is it makes humanity look, I think because it's fun. She kinda has all the necessary qualities to become a target of people's hate: she's a rich spoiled privileged girl, who wants to be a a singer despite having no talent whatsoever, whose parents pay a studio to make a music video for her. Add the fact that Friday is probably one of the worst songs ever written, and you have a not so unique combo of some of the worst things wrong with pop culture today. In a way, it's kinda hard to NOT hate her.



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"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

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sapphi_snake on 14 August 2011
Alby_da_Wolf said:
sapphi_snake said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
sapphi_snake said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Silver-Tiger said:
ok, her video is incredibly annoying, the music is annoying, the jokes are annoying...

But she doesn't deserve to be bullied. She just wanted to have fun, and she didn't hurt anybody (expect for a few ears, but that aside).


She looks like a Barbary ape and she sings even worse, but if they bully her, they should at least kill Mariah Carey and all the other notorious whining singers that plague pop music.

Ummm, Mariah Carey has an incredible voice.

I can concede you about the voice in itself, although I don't particularly like it, but it's that whining style of singing that she contributed a lot to make popular that I really hate. Dionne Warwick, Carla Thomas, Amii Stewart and many others, not to mention goddesses like Ella Fitzgerald and Aretha Franklin, all have (or had) incredible voices, far better than Mariah, but they DON'T whine!

I doubt that style of singing started with Mariah. Singers, especially Divas, usually have a way of exaggerating when they sing (see Celine Dion, whose hand gestures durign singing  make her even more guilty of this).

Fair enough, although Celine Dion's style is more "sugary" than "whining".    I mentioned Mariah because she's the whining one that I happened to listen the most, against my will, as for some periods TVs and radios broadcasted her songs a lot here. Also, Mariah's voice is quite higher pitched than Celine's, it makes the whining more obnoxious. Anyway, again, it's a lot matter of my personal tastes, also in the operas, tenors and sopranos are the voices I like the least, also for their tendency to Divas attitudes, as you poited out, and their uncanny love for trills (even the best opera writers of XIX century were often forced to add trills and the like under sopranos' and tenors' pressure to titillate their virtuosity and egos).

Mariah was very influenced by them if I'm not mistaken, so it's no wonder you hate her.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Alby_da_Wolf on 14 August 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
sapphi_snake said:

Alby_da_Wolf said:

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I can concede you about the voice in itself, although I don't particularly like it, but it's that whining style of singing that she contributed a lot to make popular that I really hate. Dionne Warwick, Carla Thomas, Amii Stewart and many others, not to mention goddesses like Ella Fitzgerald and Aretha Franklin, all have (or had) incredible voices, far better than Mariah, but they DON'T whine!

I doubt that style of singing started with Mariah. Singers, especially Divas, usually have a way of exaggerating when they sing (see Celine Dion, whose hand gestures durign singing  make her even more guilty of this).

Fair enough, although Celine Dion's style is more "sugary" than "whining".    I mentioned Mariah because she's the whining one that I happened to listen the most, against my will, as for some periods TVs and radios broadcasted her songs a lot here. Also, Mariah's voice is quite higher pitched than Celine's, it makes the whining more obnoxious. Anyway, again, it's a lot matter of my personal tastes, also in the operas, tenors and sopranos are the voices I like the least, also for their tendency to Divas attitudes, as you poited out, and their uncanny love for trills (even the best opera writers of XIX century were often forced to add trills and the like under sopranos' and tenors' pressure to titillate their virtuosity and egos).

Mariah was very influenced by them if I'm not mistaken, so it's no wonder you hate her.

I guess so. BTW, I make exceptions, for example I don't dislike so much trills in Mozart and other XVIII century operas, I find them more fitting to the style of that epoch, for example I like "The Magic Flute" despite it being rich of trills. But I definitely hate them in modern music.



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Jumpin on 14 August 2011

Her music is probably better than half of the other American crap they play nowadays anyway.

 

Either way, anyone bullying 13 year old girls online or offline - leave alone using profanity towards her, and even death threats - is truly a pathetic excuse of a human being.



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kingofwale on 14 August 2011

let me get this straight.

is it not right to hate something that is bad?

and isn't her video/music one of the worst ones out there?

So... why shouldn't we hate on it?


Heck, people get bullied MUCH less deservingly than this, why should we care?



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ShadowSoldier on 14 August 2011

Bullying? Come on now that's just fucked up



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