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What do you think of Black Holes,Worm holes?

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Blackholes actually exist, where as wormholes not so much as I can tell. As an astrophysicist, I spent half a year studying the mechanics, temperature profiles and evolution of blackholes. They are fascinating things and I think is reassuring to know that we have one gigantic black hole at the center of our galaxy.



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archbrix said:
I can't really vote based on the thread title, as Black Holes and Wormholes are (theoretically) two different things.

A Wormhole seems to be associated more with time travel or time "jumping" to different points in four dimensional space.

A Black Hole is even more elusive in its purpose and existence; IMHO it could hide or be a gateway to the mysteries of the universe itself: The existence of space and time and consciousness, which begs the age old "chicken and egg" question of which came first; existence or the ability to create existence? Perhaps there is no "first", as in our current finite lives it's hard to comprehend infinity.

Perhaps when we die (i.e. transcend this existence) we all understand the universe(s)...

wormholes are fiction

only a type of black hole is what we describe wormholes in fiction



o_O.Q said:

some people say that your consciousness is eternal but as far as i'm concerned theres no proof of that and imo our consciousness is caused by electrical impulses in our brains...

its one thing to saya that energy cannot be created or destroyed but will always be converted to one form or another but how do we know for certain that that applies to an individual's consciousness?

We don't know.  But if we currently knew the answers to these questions (such as whether or not we're eternal), what would be the point of living now?

If you think, "When I die, there will be nothing and I'll ceace to perceive anything", then what's the point of this current experience in the end?

Conversely, if you think, "When I die it doesn't matter, because I exist eternally", then again, what's the point of this current experience in the end?

The mystery and wonder that this proposes to our imaginations is one of the key factors that keeps us going.  After all, not a single one of us truly knows whether or not we are the only essence that really exists... or at the same time, if you really exist at all.



o_O.Q said:
snakenobi said:
o_O.Q said:
black holes make me crap my pants when i think of what they are capable of... they absorb light making making them less visible and that coupled with their destructive power makes them a serious threat... then theres also all sorts of other crap out there like gamma ray bursts that could take out earth with ease...


you seem to think very narrow

 

all these crazy things keep happening but its the way to go,

 

even if earth gets wiped out,we wont just end,if we did then the existence of everything would be questionable

 

how the universe came to existence,when did time start,what was there before big bang,where did it come from

 

even if we ends and universe ends,we won't just dissappear we will be there in some form or the other


i think you place too much significance on humans...

i highly doubt that if earth is wiped out by some localised event like a black hole or whatever that that would have any impact on the universe itself...

for all we know we could be wiped out long before we even get a proper chance at solving these mysteries properly...

all i can say is that i hope that in my lifetime some of these questions are answered, some people say that your consciousness is eternal but as far as i'm concerned theres no proof of that and imo our consciousness is caused by electrical impulses in our brains...

its one thing to saya that energy cannot be created or destroyed but will always be converted to one form or another but how do we know for certain that that applies to an individual's consciousness?


i am not placing too much significance on humans that why i said in some form or the other it will exist not as humans only though



archbrix said:
o_O.Q said:

some people say that your consciousness is eternal but as far as i'm concerned theres no proof of that and imo our consciousness is caused by electrical impulses in our brains...

its one thing to saya that energy cannot be created or destroyed but will always be converted to one form or another but how do we know for certain that that applies to an individual's consciousness?

We don't know.  But if we currently knew the answers to these questions (such as whether or not we're eternal), what would be the point of living now?

If you think, "When I die, there will be nothing and I'll ceace to perceive anything", then what's the point of this current experience in the end?

Conversely, if you think, "When I die it doesn't matter, because I exist eternally", then again, what's the point of this current experience in the end?

The mystery and wonder that this proposes to our imaginations is one of the key factors that keeps us going.  After all, not a single one of us truly knows whether or not we are the only essence that really exists... or at the same time, if you really exist at all.


why does there have to be a point or purpose?



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maverick40 said:
Blackholes actually exist, where as wormholes not so much as I can tell. As an astrophysicist, I spent half a year studying the mechanics, temperature profiles and evolution of blackholes. They are fascinating things and I think is reassuring to know that we have one gigantic black hole at the center of our galaxy.


yeah wormholes are fiction

they are just the type of black holes integrated with the idea of time trvel withinthe same universe but only forward

 

i only added it in the title as some people know about it from science fiction movies and it will be easier to understand



o_O.Q said:
snakenobi said:
o_O.Q said:
black holes make me crap my pants when i think of what they are capable of... they absorb light making making them less visible and that coupled with their destructive power makes them a serious threat... then theres also all sorts of other crap out there like gamma ray bursts that could take out earth with ease...


you seem to think very narrow

 

all these crazy things keep happening but its the way to go,

 

even if earth gets wiped out,we wont just end,if we did then the existence of everything would be questionable

 

how the universe came to existence,when did time start,what was there before big bang,where did it come from

 

even if we ends and universe ends,we won't just dissappear we will be there in some form or the other


i think you place too much significance on humans...

i highly doubt that if earth is wiped out by some localised event like a black hole or whatever that that would have any impact on the universe itself...

for all we know we could be wiped out long before we even get a proper chance at solving these mysteries properly...

all i can say is that i hope that in my lifetime some of these questions are answered, some people say that your consciousness is eternal but as far as i'm concerned theres no proof of that and imo our consciousness is caused by electrical impulses in our brains...

its one thing to saya that energy cannot be created or destroyed but will always be converted to one form or another but how do we know for certain that that applies to an individual's consciousness?

Agree with what you said, as the only sentient life on this planet, we believe our existance is significant. however its not necessarily the case.

for the wormhole theory, i believe (based on science) that the laws of physics exist outsize our own unvierse. and its very possible that we exist in a multiverse, where there are many other universes. however i dont think that a black hole can take us to alternate universes or dimensions. i dont think life can exist in or around a black hole.

tbh, we see all these sci-fi programes and stuff, but realistically i dont think we will travel at speeds capable of reaching alien worlds.



o_O.Q said:
archbrix said:
o_O.Q said:

some people say that your consciousness is eternal but as far as i'm concerned theres no proof of that and imo our consciousness is caused by electrical impulses in our brains...

its one thing to saya that energy cannot be created or destroyed but will always be converted to one form or another but how do we know for certain that that applies to an individual's consciousness?

We don't know.  But if we currently knew the answers to these questions (such as whether or not we're eternal), what would be the point of living now?

If you think, "When I die, there will be nothing and I'll ceace to perceive anything", then what's the point of this current experience in the end?

Conversely, if you think, "When I die it doesn't matter, because I exist eternally", then again, what's the point of this current experience in the end?

The mystery and wonder that this proposes to our imaginations is one of the key factors that keeps us going.  After all, not a single one of us truly knows whether or not we are the only essence that really exists... or at the same time, if you really exist at all.


why does there have to be a point or purpose?


it doesn't have to be but we form a purpose to continue

otherwise whats the point of existence and working for the future as it would irrelevant



snakenobi said:
o_O.Q said:
archbrix said:
o_O.Q said:

some people say that your consciousness is eternal but as far as i'm concerned theres no proof of that and imo our consciousness is caused by electrical impulses in our brains...

its one thing to saya that energy cannot be created or destroyed but will always be converted to one form or another but how do we know for certain that that applies to an individual's consciousness?

We don't know.  But if we currently knew the answers to these questions (such as whether or not we're eternal), what would be the point of living now?

If you think, "When I die, there will be nothing and I'll ceace to perceive anything", then what's the point of this current experience in the end?

Conversely, if you think, "When I die it doesn't matter, because I exist eternally", then again, what's the point of this current experience in the end?

The mystery and wonder that this proposes to our imaginations is one of the key factors that keeps us going.  After all, not a single one of us truly knows whether or not we are the only essence that really exists... or at the same time, if you really exist at all.


why does there have to be a point or purpose?


it doesn't have to be but we form a purpose to continue

otherwise whats the point of existence and working for the future as it would irrelevant

This



snakenobi said:
o_O.Q said:
archbrix said:
o_O.Q said:

some people say that your consciousness is eternal but as far as i'm concerned theres no proof of that and imo our consciousness is caused by electrical impulses in our brains...

its one thing to saya that energy cannot be created or destroyed but will always be converted to one form or another but how do we know for certain that that applies to an individual's consciousness?

We don't know.  But if we currently knew the answers to these questions (such as whether or not we're eternal), what would be the point of living now?

If you think, "When I die, there will be nothing and I'll ceace to perceive anything", then what's the point of this current experience in the end?

Conversely, if you think, "When I die it doesn't matter, because I exist eternally", then again, what's the point of this current experience in the end?

The mystery and wonder that this proposes to our imaginations is one of the key factors that keeps us going.  After all, not a single one of us truly knows whether or not we are the only essence that really exists... or at the same time, if you really exist at all.


why does there have to be a point or purpose?


it doesn't have to be but we form a purpose to continue

otherwise whats the point of existence and working for the future as it would irrelevant

don't get me wrong here i'm not saying with certainty that we will be faced with oblivion when we die i'm just saying that theres no real proof of either outcome being true but we know it has to be one or the other