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Potable_Toe said:

If your bother-in-law must have dedicated graphics then suggest a cheap card along the lines of an ATI 5400/5700 or nVidia 430/450 because a properly expensive gamers card is by no means needed for media playback and resource light things such as MS word or browsing.

Bear in mind also that for video playback the media player and codecs you have make a big difference.

Probably the most popular one currently is 'Media Player Classic' with 'CCCP' codec pack... Other good media players include
KMP, a very versatile media player that doesn't require any additional codecs for almost all media content be it audio or visual, I think the only issues I have run ito with it are when trying to play .FLV (Flash Video) files. This excels at audio playback.

Splash Player is also a very dependable media player with almost the same functionality as KMP or MPC but has built in multi core support making it more efficient, however comparing it side by side with KMP its audio playback isn't the best but wont disappoint. This has a very nice user interface and is easy to navigate with informative statistics and useful features such as powersaving options for laptops and Hardware acceleration.

For me the smoothest and most efficient set-up I have come across is plain old windows media with 'Core AVC' codecs... however Core AVC isn't free unless you sail the high seas, this has played all HD content, on my now ageing (4 years old) laptop (Toshiba Equium A300d-13X), all the previous media players have struggled with. The problem with this set-up as compared to MPC with CCCP and Core AVC is that MPC has more extensive options for things like subtitle selection and audio channel selection, in this area WMP fails considerably in comparison.

Ofcourse there is everybodies fall back option VLC which uses witchcraft to play nigh-on everything in existance without the use of codecs what-so-ever but isn't the most efficient nor is it the most stable player but it can play pretty much anything you will ever come across.

YEAH VLC! WOO!



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I'm using VLC for almost everything. But maybe I should look into the alternatives you listed.



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I forgot to mention the 'DivX Plus Codec Pack' which is almost as good as Core AVC in my experience but is free.



JEMC said:
Ok, this may sound stupid, but if your brother-in-law goes with a Sandy Bridge CPU and wants to use the onboard graphics he will have to go with a mobo based on the H67 o Z68 chipset as those are the only ones with video connection (D-sub, DVI and/or HDMI). Forget the mobos with the P55 chipset. And the same goes with the former i5 and i7, you had to buy the H55 or H57 mobos, not the P55.

On the other hand, the whole range of AMD mobos has video connections.

One more note about the Sandy Bridge cpu's as well. The desktop cpus have 2 different versions of integrated graphics. The standard SB cpu's have the Intel HD 2000 graphics, the SB cpu's with the "K" (unlocked) annotation have the more powerful Intel HD 3000 graphics. All the mobile SB cpu's have the Intel HD 3000 graphics included, I believe.

Oh and it's P67 chipset for SB cpu's. ;-p They're good if you don't plan to use the onboard video.




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He should be fine with i3 2100 for what he does on the computer. For mobo cheap H61 will be fine



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Zlejedi said:
He should be fine with i3 2100 for what he does on the computer. For mobo cheap H61 will be fine

2100T should do better, since he does no games and all. Much less vattage on it and only slightly more expensive, even at the loss of some clockspeed.

Same IGP too.



Nice coincidence.
I did some more research for him and I also had an eye on the i3 2100T.



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Xen said:
Zlejedi said:
He should be fine with i3 2100 for what he does on the computer. For mobo cheap H61 will be fine

2100T should do better, since he does no games and all. Much less vattage on it and only slightly more expensive, even at the loss of some clockspeed.

Same IGP too.


Diffrence is minimal as i3 2100 is already extremly efficient.

So only get 2100T if they cost the same.

 

Hmm but if he really only wants word and emails then new SB pentium would be enough:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116401

then add m-ITX mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138327

 

and you have ultra cheap power efficient combo than takes well below 100 w at full power

and you can put it in mini case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129081

For a low power ultra small machine.



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Lower TDP =/= less power consumption. Do not be fooled.



Zlejedi said:
Xen said:
Zlejedi said:
He should be fine with i3 2100 for what he does on the computer. For mobo cheap H61 will be fine

2100T should do better, since he does no games and all. Much less vattage on it and only slightly more expensive, even at the loss of some clockspeed.

Same IGP too.


Diffrence is minimal as i3 2100 is already extremly efficient.

So only get 2100T if they cost the same.

 

Hmm but if he really only wants word and emails then new SB pentium would be enough:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116401

then add m-ITX mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138327

 

and you have ultra cheap power efficient combo than takes well below 100 w at full power

and you can put it in mini case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129081

For a low power ultra small machine.

I was gonna suggest a Pentium G620 at first, but since it lacks many features that are useful for streaming, I didn't.

And while EIST will manage to cut them both in consumption, it's still a 30w difference. I didn't see direct benchmarks, but the difference is I don't remember... $10?

It should still pay off in the long run.