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sapphi_snake said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
If it can go one way, it should go both.

If you thought abotu it carefully, you'd see why this position makes no sense.

You should think about it carefully and you would see it makes perfect sense.



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Ssenkahdavic said:
sapphi_snake said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
If it can go one way, it should go both.

If you thought abotu it carefully, you'd see why this position makes no sense.

You should think about it carefully and you would see it makes perfect sense.

I've done that. It only makes sense if you don't think about it carefully (or you're a homophobe out to bash gays).



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sapphi_snake said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
sapphi_snake said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
If it can go one way, it should go both.

If you thought abotu it carefully, you'd see why this position makes no sense.

You should think about it carefully and you would see it makes perfect sense.

I've done that. It only makes sense if you don't think about it carefully (or you're a homophobe out to bash gays).


Im sure if that was the case I could come up with something much more clever. 



Ssenkahdavic said:
sapphi_snake said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
sapphi_snake said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
If it can go one way, it should go both.

If you thought abotu it carefully, you'd see why this position makes no sense.

You should think about it carefully and you would see it makes perfect sense.

I've done that. It only makes sense if you don't think about it carefully (or you're a homophobe out to bash gays).


Im sure if that was the case I could come up with something much more clever. 

Well, I'm glad it's not the case then.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:

@Player1x3:

That wasnt my point. There is a lot more to german history than that period of 15 years of time. And learn the fucking difference between pride and honour of a persons heritage and fascist supremacy which looks down at othr races as inferior.

The line between the two gets quite blurry at times.

I said that you should  learn the fucking difference between pride and honour of a persons heritage and fascist supremacy which looks down at othr races as inferior.   

Og, of course YOU SEE it that way, you are self loathing about your orgin all the way to your core. So to you, proud of  a being free race during history - SLAVE OWNERS NAZI FASICST, KILL IT WITH FIRE !!!!!1!!!!!oneoneeleven111!!! With this line of logic, you are only siding with white supremacist. We have more history and achivments that just enslaving ever so innocent africans who had nothing to do with slavery whatsoever.

What makes you think I'm self-loathing? How am I siding with white supremacists exactly? And are you seriously gonna start blaming blacks for them being slaves?

Oh, cmon now, you seriously think you are not self loathing? You hate Romania and Romanians, you despise christians and Christianity on global level, you are obviously biased agianst your own white race (or are you of a gypsy orgin? That would explain a lot) you think gays should have more rights than straights, (as seen in this thread)ec etc... While you are not self loathing on yourself as a person, you sure hate everything about your orgin and heritage. And you are somehow siding with them because what you are basically saying is that whites shouldnt be proud because they are superior or at least have superior history and as such dont need to feel proud because they already are ''great'' as they are. And I am not blaming Africans for getting enslaved (thou they are not off the hook completly, they were defeated by much smaller number of europeans on thier own territory). What I mean was is that Africans were the key founders of slavery before.

Also, I forgot, that whites were the only ones that practiced slavery, and as such only white person can be raicst and be ashamed of  thier history and heritage. And who knows, maybe one day, whites can get esnlaved as wall. One can hope, right sapphi?

Whites aren't the only ones to practice slavery, they're the ones who went to the greatest lenghts to justify and institutionalize it. Also, I do not think anyone should be enslaved, though for some people I guess it would be a lesson in empathy.

Becuase they had the power and ability to do so. If any other race had the same opportunity you bet your ass they would try and do the same Eurpoeans did.





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Seece said:
Marks said:
That's awesome! I really hope they do this. And anyone who is against this should be considered a heterophobic, because if they're not allowed to have a straight pride parade then that is a massive double standard.

That's just silly, I'm not hetrophobic and I am against this idea.

It's amusing/worrying how people don't get this ' oh gays have one so why can't straights'

It really isn't that simple. think WHY gays have one, think WHY black people celebrate their culture and such. There is a REASON for it. White people and straight people have never had to face prejudice.

Gay pride and celebrating black history isn't about being racist against whites and hetrophobic. White pride and straight pride .. really? It'd be singling black and gays out. If you don't get that then ... damn. It's ABC ...

I get what you're saying, I just don't agree with it. So since white people and straight people haven't been descriminated against historically we aren't allowed to celebrate our culture like blacks or gays? 

Plus  straight white males have it the hardest out of any racial/cultural group these days thanks to affirmative action, racial quotas, etc. Minorities get so many advantages over white people. And it won't be long until white people are a minority in the US. Will we be allowed to have parades once we're the minority?



Marks said:
Seece said:
Marks said:
That's awesome! I really hope they do this. And anyone who is against this should be considered a heterophobic, because if they're not allowed to have a straight pride parade then that is a massive double standard.

That's just silly, I'm not hetrophobic and I am against this idea.

It's amusing/worrying how people don't get this ' oh gays have one so why can't straights'

It really isn't that simple. think WHY gays have one, think WHY black people celebrate their culture and such. There is a REASON for it. White people and straight people have never had to face prejudice.

Gay pride and celebrating black history isn't about being racist against whites and hetrophobic. White pride and straight pride .. really? It'd be singling black and gays out. If you don't get that then ... damn. It's ABC ...

I get what you're saying, I just don't agree with it. So since white people and straight people haven't been descriminated against historically we aren't allowed to celebrate our culture like blacks or gays? 

Plus  straight white males have it the hardest out of any racial/cultural group these days thanks to affirmative action, racial quotas, etc. Minorities get so many advantages over white people. And it won't be long until white people are a minority in the US. Will we be allowed to have parades once we're the minority?

 

http://www.suite101.com/content/matthew-shepard-murdered-for-being-gay-a98581

http://www.365gay.com/video/texas-sailor-murdered-for-being-gay/

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a26_1223127748&comments=1 (Woman murdered for being black)

 

Yep, straight white males have it so tough.



@Player1x3:

I said that you should  learn the fucking difference between pride and honour of a persons heritage and fascist supremacy which looks down at othr races as inferior. 

'White culture' and history IS ALREADY celebrated. It's called mainstream culture. If you open a history book that is used in schools, guess which race's history is presented?

Oh, cmon now, you seriously think you are not self loathing? You hate Romania and Romanians,

I don't hate them, I just dislike them.

you despise christians and Christianity on global level

I'm not a christian, so this doesn't count as self loathing. And I don't hate christians, I just dislike their beliefs. Love the believer, not the belief (sorry, couldn't help myself ).

you are obviously biased agianst your own white race (or are you of a gypsy orgin? That would explain a lot)

I am not a gypsy. I'm also pretty sure gypsies are caucasians also.

you think gays should have more rights than straights

I doubt there's anything I said that would suggest that.

you are basically saying is that whites shouldnt be proud because they are superior or at least have superior history

WOW, thanks for revealing your true (racist) colours. It was about time.

What I mean was is that Africans were the key founders of slavery before.

Africans invented slavery? Got any proof of that?

Becuase they had the power and ability to do so. If any other race had the same opportunity you bet your ass they would try and do the same Eurpoeans did.

And this makes iwhat whites did any better?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Marks said:

1. I get what you're saying, I just don't agree with it. So since white people and straight people haven't been descriminated against historically we aren't allowed to celebrate our culture like blacks or gays? 

2. Plus  straight white males have it the hardest out of any racial/cultural group these days thanks to affirmative action, racial quotas, etc. Minorities get so many advantages over white people. And it won't be long until white people are a minority in the US. Will we be allowed to have parades once we're the minority?

1. Whites and heterosexuals already celebrate their culture.

2. Oh please, quit it with the paranoia. Are white men a minority in universities? Are they not present in the business world? In politics? Are they ghettoized to the outskirts of society?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

I have to say such special treatment to the gays only makes them look weaker, and nothing else. I mean I have nothing against the gays but if they are allowed a Pride parade then so should the straight. Is the gay community so afraid of the straight community?

And the gays are allowed to celebrate valentine's day, really. Its nothing related to heterosexuality.
Also because gays are facing discrimination doesn't make it ok to discriminate against heteros.

The comparison with homeless people doesn't work because this is a social problem not a financial problem. At present the only thing that the authorities consider is the sexual orientation. And that is pretty discriminating.

Just because one was discriminated in the past doesn't mean he has the right to discriminate now.