Kosovo and Vojvodina were both given right as autonomous provinces in SFRY constitution of 1974. But they were never considered as republics, based on the fact those 2 were never countries or anything of that sort before.  In 1987 or 1990, Miloshevic removed the status of  autonomous province for Kosovo, as a result of Albanians protesting, wanting for Kosovo to be one of the Yugoslav republics. As for our law, it was in our constitution that Kosovo may never be recognized or not considerd part of our country, BUT our great deocratic president chnaged it and excluded that from the Constitution in his last trip to Geneva couple of months back. Quite pathetic, isn't it?

The great and honourable Prime Minister Stephen Harper

Yes I do approve of my Prime Minister. Infact he's one of the best Prime Ministers I think my country has ever had. As a Conservative I am very happy to see him in office since the Liberal Party has controlled Government for far to long. Also he has had one of the longest minority offices in Canadian history and now enjoys a parliamentary majority. So obviously the majority of Canadian's do too.

I love how Prime Minister Harper stands up for Canada and while being a friend of America isn't a puppet like some past Prime Ministers. I remember the first year Harper was elected unknown submarines kept showing up in Northern Canada, Harper realized that they were likely American. So he contacted the White House and demanded the US to stop using Canadian waters without permission. The White House denied that the submarines were American. Harper then ordered the Canadian Navy to engage any subs that did not have the consent of the Canadian Government. Just like that the submarines stopped appearing.

Harper has balls. The US owed billions of dollars for lumber they had bought and not paid taxes on etc...etc.. I believe it was like 6-billion. Our last Prime Minister kept complaining that the US owed the money, but he never did anything about it, he was America's bitch. Harper gets in office and within the first year in office makes the US repay alot of the debt, now sure America never paid us back completely but Harper actually got some of the stolen money back where the Liberal's just let America boss us around.

Then when Canada went to war in Afghanistan the Liberal Government sent troops in Jeeps and Vietnam era vehicles. Many troops didn't even have proper body armor. Their was no armored devision, no tanks and very few if any armoured vehicles. Canadian troops were getting killed by friendly fire from American's and mowed down by the Taliban. Harper gets in office and invests millions to give our troops state of the art equipment. He paid for new armoured vehicles, new body armour, new guns, new transport planes, new helicopters. Now he's buying new fighter jets. Without Harper Canada would be one of the weakest forces in Afghanistan.

Then the Canadian people want out of Afghanistan. Harper hears them but President Bush and later Obama put pressure on Canada to stay and support America. Harper extends the mission to 2011, Obama pleads with Harper to stay in Afghanistan till 2014 (In a combat role) but Harper resists American pressure and instead pulls combat troops out as he promised the Canadian people.

Roads and infastructure in Canada were pittiful, in some areas they still are. However Harper created the Canada Action Plan and renovated roads , Bridges and infastructure. Bridges were collapsing due to low maintanance from the Liberal's but under Harper these collapses have dropped from a monthly occurance to once a year or so. The roads in my province (British Columbia) have been significantly improved.

Then Health Care, despite the propoganda under Harper more funding has been put into health care each year. He promises when the provincial deal expires that the federal Government will increase medical funding even more.

Then Harper through our Conservative Government kept the national debt from spiraling out of control. Unemployment was very high and our country was in massive recession. We went into a deficit but thanks to the Conservatives the deficit was one of the smallest in the Western Hemisphere and most of the EU.

Then China wanted to increase trade with Canada. The Chinese Government invited Harper to a trade summit. However at the summit Harper said that China's dictatorial control over their people was unnacceptable. He said as Prime Minister of Canada he had to support Canadian values and democracy. He left the trade summit critisizing China's treatment of its citizens. He could have easily just signed a trade agreement however he wanted assurances that child labour wasn't being used and that chinese workers were being treated better and that food was being tested properly. Now since then some new trade has occured but Harper stuck up for Canada, he wasn't about to sell out for some extra trade. Harper sticks up for democracy and moral's abroad, he's nobodies bitch.

Harper also loves the west. Past Liberal Prime Minister's rarely went west of Ontario. If you know Canada you'll know that the bulk of the Canadian people live in Ontario and Quebec and Eastern Canada. The Liberal's treated BC and Alberta and other western provinces like skum. I remember once during all of Prime Minister chretien's time in office he visited my riding (Abbotsford) he was their to dedicate a Sihk temple. However since Harper has been in office he has come to my riding about 10-20 times. Infact during elections he came three times that I can remember. I couldn't go see him because of work but my grandma went and shook his hand. He actually cared about the west, it would have been easy during elections to stay in the East where their are more seats and you can reach more voters. Heck the Liberal's largely focus on Ontario, but Harper came to my riding, my city several times and would actually meet western Canadians. Under Harper massive gains have been made and massive improvement's have come to us here in western Canada.

Sure Harper has a few faults like not doing enough to stop Abortion or end Gay Marriage. He also has pushed for the HST over our provincial taxes. I have a few gripes with some of his policies. However here is a leader who for once is not America's bitch, he's not a coward who leaves our military in shambles. He sticks up for his moral's values and Canada's interests. He is one of the greatest Canadian Prime Ministers to ever hold office.

You disgust me. More so than your prime minister.

But isnt your duty as a left wing liberal to be disgusted with everyone that doesnt share your views and opinnion?

Nope, just at people who persecute others.

But to you, everything is persecution, right? I mean, you think stoping child abortion is persecution, for God's sake !!!

No, I think telling women what they should do with their bodies is persecution. And it's impossible to deny that Joel is advocating for the persecution of gays.

I've gotta say its funny how blunt Sapphi is. Just because we disagree on certain ideologies doesn't mean we should call each other names or insult each other with things such as "You disgust me".

My two stances listed aren't persecution either.

Abortion - is murder and murder is illegal I don't care how anyone tries to justify it your killing a human being, once the cells have merged and started forming a human life it is murder to kill that human being. Disagree your free to however protecting unborn children is hardly something that should disgust you. Especially since some later abortions kill almost fully developed children. Its a brutal practice that is direct conflict with my countries murder laws and as such shouldn't be legal. An example in the states, in Seattle a guy didn't want his baby but the women refused to abort it so he punched her in the stomach killing the unborn child. He was charged with first degree murder. So why is it okay for a doctor to kill that baby and not the father, some will say its the woman's choice, so how is it not murder for the mother to kill her baby? (Sapphi we have had this convo before so no need to derail this thread with your extremist views)

As for gay marriage, I for one am a supporter of Gay unions. Infact before Harper became Prime Minister as leader of the opposition he proposed that all gay's have the right to gay union's and equal treatment legally with married couples. Short of being called married his proposition was pretty much the same as gay marriage today. However he said since Marriages definition was a bond between a man and a women, and because of the religious sentiment marriage carried that it would violate religious rights laws and be immoral to change the definition of marriage just to appease a minority. I whole heartedly agree with that proposition, so when the Liberal's passed Gay Marriage into law and started forcing pastors and civil servents to marry gay couples against their will, started suggesting the Bible should be considered hate litterature etc...etc... Of course I'm not going to agree with that.

However Prime Minister Harper has stated that both Gay Marriage and Abortion were passed into law democratically and that it would be immoral to appeal the laws. I disagree with him on that stance, I think both laws should be appealed and then the whole nation should vote on them. If the whole country agrees that these laws should remain in place then democratically they should. But just because some Liberal members of parliament think they should be laws doesn't mean they should.

But back to you being disgusted with me, you hate religion and all those who believe in God or don't share your view point. Prime Minister Harper could do wonders infact the Romanian President could do almost anything and you would still hate him because he disagree's with some of your theology!

Example I love President Obama and his work in the US, yet I disagree with alot of his theology and idealogies. But he doesn't disgust me and I don't hate him. You are unable to accept that other leaders and people in your community have different idea's. I'm not trying to be mean I added you to my friends list because I like debating with you. However saying crap like I disgust you is going way to far!

Umm how is it persecuting gays to advocate Same Sex Union's? As for Marriage changing the definition of a word and forcing pastors and civil servents against their will's to marry gay couples is persecution and a violation of religious rights and freedoms. Canada is a democracy and religious rights and freedom's should be respected.

Same Sex Union's would have avoided persecuting anyone. Why is it okay to force civil servents and pastor's to marry gay couples, but its not okay for Pastors and civil servents who are religiously inclined to deny such services. Its hypocritical for you or any gay person/activist complaining about persecution to go ahead and persecute anyone who disagree's.

You are advocating religious persecution while accusing me of homosexual persecution.

Fact of the matter is gay union's would have meant relationships recognized by the state with tax benefits and living benefits equal to that of marriage (Stephen Harpers initial proposition) Why then was it nescessary to force Christian's Muslims, Jews and all other religious people and leaders to marry gay couples?

It seems that you advocate persecution of all those who disagree with you. In the past you have said politician's shouldn't be allowed to practice a religious belief and that they shouldn't talk about God infront of people. You are obviously very anti-religion and don't care about anyone who is, you believe in supporting religious persecution big time and curbing free speach.

In the end I'm not disgusted with you, you have your beliefs and thanks to being here in Canada and being raised with Canadian and Christian values you have every right to those beliefs. You also have the right to vocalize those beliefs and I am not disgusted in you due to your beliefs. However attacking me in the fashion you did today was unacceptable!

Its hypocritical to support religious persecution, and speach persecution while being against homosexual persecution. Its also weird that you believe that murdering children is okay, while saying a woman's body should be respected. What about the babies body?

False. How are pastors forced to marry anyone? That's that fear mongering propaganda from the right. As for civil servants, they're obligated to marry whomever the law says they have to. Their religious views are irrelevant when it comes to civil marriage. Actually, by refusing to marry gays they're the ones commiting persecution by forcing their religious views on others.

Same sex unions is also a discriminatory concept that further marginalizes gays (and never gives them full equality).