It's relevant in that Osamanobama was saying that his God Yahweh is supposed to be in charge of everything in the US and that universities that teach evolution are anti-Yahweh (when there is no real reason to be Pro Yahweh aka "God") and that Osamanobama is emblematic of the types of people that think Fox News a station with a heavy Pro God / Yahweh bias is fair and balanced.  As the pro Yahweh crowd are the ones in danger of leading this country down the road to fascism or totalitarianism.

I find it obsence when public policies are made that prevent others from being able to have all of the personal freedoms that they should have like not allowing women to be in charge of their own bodies, supporting one faction (or two) factions in The Middle East when all three sides are to blame and none of them any more right in their beliefs than Yanammanno tribesman fighting in the South American jungle over which one is more magical and being allowed to jeapordize the whole world while doing so because the Christians, Jews, and Muslems have more potent spears than the Yanammano, or denying others the right to do things that would harm no one else and that should be their rights as much as anyone else's -- gay marriage -- due to the bigoted teachings in a book that lost most of its claim to be any kind of a reliable source long ago.

so you dont know what a fascist is, then.

why are you here?

edit: also you arent very good at judging politic climates and determining factors of elections, are you? the results of the election had little to due with Christianity, and every thing to due with back lash to an ever increasing size of goverment, its control of their lives, taxes, debt, etc

apparently me being a Christian, has blinded you with hatred so my entire points in this thread have flew right over your head.

to address you simpleton misunderstandings

-never said God is supposed to be in charge of everything in the US

-never said universities teaching evolution are lying or anti-God, in fact never even mentioned evolution

-nearly every anchor of every news station claims to be a Christian, this is no different at Fox, and their faith almosts always has absolutely nothing to do with whats being reported.

-you have an irrational fear and hatred to Christians

Well, in the big picture of things if you're talking about some generic deistic God, then I don't have any proof that such a god doesn't exist other than the fact that if there was one you would think that it would show itself in some fashion which it has never done.

 If on the other hand you're implying as most people seem to do and as Osamanobama was that that "God" is Yahweh and that Yahweh was the father of Jesus and the creator of everything in the universe and all people must follow his laws or go to Hell some day, then I would consider the fact that since Yahweh was just a literary invention of the Bible's J author and based upon a hodgepodge of other earlier Egyptian and Mesoptamian Gods, then I would say that that is definitive proof that God meaning Yahweh the God of Judeao-Christianity  and Islam and that most American Conservatives claim is God definitely doesn't exist.

Oh, you're being a Christian doesn't make me hate you.  That fact just shows how wrong you are.

"You Simpleton" -- looks like you really didn't even bother to learn grammar in school there, bud..  Really flying over my head there.  Not.

-- You said the laws in this nation we're "God given" when in fact they're not as your God doesn't exist.  Its people at Tea Party realities holding up signs about how we need to get God back in our country that demonstrate the Tea Party's intentions on that score.

--You might not have mentioned evolution, however, since you have a firm belief in God and a blatant disregard for universities it's easy to see they're definitely teaching something that you disagree with.  So, I guess you're fine with Universities teaching the truth that there's nothing more than mythology to the old religions as well as Evolution?

--Funny seeing as how they very often have various priests and preachers come on to all of the shows on Fox at least on a weekly basis.  You don't see priests and preachers on a weekly basis during most of their news programming. 

-- Anybody that has looked at the history of Christianity and that understands how they want to impose their God on everyone else's personal activities should at the very least have a healthy skepticism of the good intentions of Christians.

Oh, you're being a Christian doesn't make me hate you.  That fact just shows how wrong you are.

''the fact shows that you are wrong'' - So someone being a Christian automatically makes him wrong at the discussion? Yeah the FACT that you think that shows that you have irrational and disturbing hate of Christians

"You Simpleton" -- looks like you really didn't even bother to learn grammar in school there, bud..  Really flying over my head there.  Not.

Good thing pointing at gramer on the internet. it will always help you win a debate

-- You said the laws in this nation we're "God given" when in fact they're not as your God doesn't exist.  Its people at Tea Party realities holding up signs about how we need to get God back in our country that demonstrate the Tea Party's intentions on that score.

I believe he said that in the constitituion it says that american laws are God given. Or maybe he meant moral laws. And your ''fact'' that God doesnt exist is just as relevant and good as the tree my cow uses to wipe her ass with. And what the Hell do you mean by ''bringing God back to the country''?  America is alrady religious country as it is, no matter how much you hate the fact.

--You might not have mentioned evolution, however, since you have a firm belief in God and a blatant disregard for universities it's easy to see they're definitely teaching something that you disagree with.  So, I guess you're fine with Universities teaching the truth that there's nothing more than mythology to the old religions as well as Evolution?

I beleive he was argung the liberal bias some of the proffesors at the universites have, not that he hates them. But than again, not like you insane hatred towards Christianity could make you see things the way they are

--Funny seeing as how they very often have various priests and preachers come on to all of the shows on Fox at least on a weekly basis.  You don't see priests and preachers on a weekly basis during most of their news programming. 

I dont watch fox, cant comment on this.

-- Anybody that has looked at the history of Christianity and that understands how they want to impose their God on everyone else's personal activities should at the very least have a healthy skepticism of the good intentions of Christians.

Or perhaps you cant distinguish the difference between the institutions of Christianity (the church) and the Christianity itself?  Not to mention you judged the group of 2.2 billion people by the actions of some of the kingdoms that killed eople 700 years ago.

Oh, here it is folks! The open minded, freedom loving,  tolerant liberal has SPOKEN! Listen to this voice of reason or face the fury of the judgement that he so heavly accuses Christians of !!!!

Well, I am convinced !!!!! Thats such a compeling evidence, I dont know how could have I been so blind! Thank you for opening my eyes with this remarkable post !!!!!

But seriously, thats has to be the most ignorant thing I have ever read in my whole life. And I know I said this few times back, but this time I actually mean this

Oh, I guess it's only ignorant because you haven't done the proper research.  I bet you haven't even had one class in Higher Biblical Criticism at a major university.  That would really explain why you have no idea as to how the Bible was actually written.

Here are a few links to help you come out of your cloud of ignorance:

On How Yahweh was based on earlier Gods from the Mesopotamian and Egyptian regions:

http://www.karenlyster.com/sitchina.html (note:  I definitely don't come to the same conclusions as Sitchin but he does a good job of demonstration how the earlier Sumerian religion influenced the later Hebrew one's conception of its God).

On The J author -- the original author of the Torah that invented Yahweh from a hodgepodge of the earlier Gods of that region ( http://www.thesatirist.com/books/BookOfJ.html )

On the Documentary Hypothesis and further elaboration upon how The Torah was conceived (before it's completion four other authors or schools of authors were instrumental in bringing The Bible to its final form (The E author that felt that the J author was wrong in only having one of the gods in her version of the Bible and the later three groups of priestly authors that brought The Bible back to including only one God as it's easier to control the populace when they're only following one God and following the example of ancient Egypt knew that if you could control a populace's beliefs then you could control their actions added most of the laws that are included in The Old Testament)

Wellhausen -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Wellhausen

Massey -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Massey

On The Documentary Hypothesis of the construction of The Torah -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis

Next time due a bit of study and research so that you won't be so surprised when a new idea to you that you consider to be ignorant actually turns out to be true.

Oh, I guess it's only ignorant because you haven't done the proper research.  I bet you haven't even had one class in Higher Biblical Criticism at a major university.  That would really explain why you have no idea as to how the Bible was actually written.

Here are a few links to help you come out of your cloud of ignorance:

On How Yahweh was based on earlier Gods from the Mesopotamian and Egyptian regions:

http://www.karenlyster.com/sitchina.html (note:  I definitely don't come to the same conclusions as Sitchin but he does a good job of demonstration how the earlier Sumerian religion influenced the later Hebrew one's conception of its God).

On The J author -- the original author of the Torah that invented Yahweh from a hodgepodge of the earlier Gods of that region ( http://www.thesatirist.com/books/BookOfJ.html )

On the Documentary Hypothesis and further elaboration upon how The Torah was conceived (before it's completion four other authors or schools of authors were instrumental in bringing The Bible to its final form (The E author that felt that the J author was wrong in only having one of the gods in her version of the Bible and the later three groups of priestly authors that brought The Bible back to including only one God as it's easier to control the populace when they're only following one God and following the example of ancient Egypt knew that if you could control a populace's beliefs then you could control their actions added most of the laws that are included in The Old Testament)

Wellhausen -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Wellhausen

Massey -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Massey

On The Documentary Hypothesis of the construction of The Torah -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis

Next time due a bit of study and research so that you won't be so surprised when a new idea to you that you consider to be ignorant actually turns out to be true.

Oh, I guess it's only ignorant because you haven't done the proper research.  I bet you haven't even had one class in Higher Biblical Criticism at a major university.  That would really explain why you have no idea as to how the Bible was actually written.

Here are a few links to help you come out of your cloud of ignorance:

On How Yahweh was based on earlier Gods from the Mesopotamian and Egyptian regions:

http://www.karenlyster.com/sitchina.html (note:  I definitely don't come to the same conclusions as Sitchin but he does a good job of demonstration how the earlier Sumerian religion influenced the later Hebrew one's conception of its God).

On The J author -- the original author of the Torah that invented Yahweh from a hodgepodge of the earlier Gods of that region ( http://www.thesatirist.com/books/BookOfJ.html )

On the Documentary Hypothesis and further elaboration upon how The Torah was conceived (before it's completion four other authors or schools of authors were instrumental in bringing The Bible to its final form (The E author that felt that the J author was wrong in only having one of the gods in her version of the Bible and the later three groups of priestly authors that brought The Bible back to including only one God as it's easier to control the populace when they're only following one God and following the example of ancient Egypt knew that if you could control a populace's beliefs then you could control their actions added most of the laws that are included in The Old Testament)

Wellhausen -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Wellhausen

Massey -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Massey

On The Documentary Hypothesis of the construction of The Torah -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis

Next time due a bit of study and research so that you won't be so surprised when a new idea to you that you consider to be ignorant actually turns out to be true.