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EdHieron said:
Player1x3 said:
EdHieron said:
MrBubbles said:
EdHieron said:
osamanobama said:
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mrstickball said:
sapphi_snake said:
mrstickball said:

 


God doesn't exist.


if you are going to make such definitive statements on the subject you must have definitive proof...? 


Well, in the big picture of things if you're talking about some generic deistic God, then I don't have any proof that such a god doesn't exist other than the fact that if there was one you would think that it would show itself in some fashion which it has never done.

 If on the other hand you're implying as most people seem to do and as Osamanobama was that that "God" is Yahweh and that Yahweh was the father of Jesus and the creator of everything in the universe and all people must follow his laws or go to Hell some day, then I would consider the fact that since Yahweh was just a literary invention of the Bible's J author and based upon a hodgepodge of other earlier Egyptian and Mesoptamian Gods, then I would say that that is definitive proof that God meaning Yahweh the God of Judeao-Christianity  and Islam and that most American Conservatives claim is God definitely doesn't exist.

Oh, here it is folks! The open minded, freedom loving,  tolerant liberal has SPOKEN! Listen to this voice of reason or face the fury of the judgement that he so heavly accuses Christians of !!!!

Well, I am convinced !!!!! Thats such a compeling evidence, I dont know how could have I been so blind! Thank you for opening my eyes with this remarkable post !!!!!

 

But seriously, thats has to be the most ignorant thing I have ever read in my whole life. And I know I said this few times back, but this time I actually mean this


Oh, I guess it's only ignorant because you haven't done the proper research.  I bet you haven't even had one class in Higher Biblical Criticism at a major university.  That would really explain why you have no idea as to how the Bible was actually written.

 

Here are a few links to help you come out of your cloud of ignorance:

On How Yahweh was based on earlier Gods from the Mesopotamian and Egyptian regions:

http://www.karenlyster.com/sitchina.html (note:  I definitely don't come to the same conclusions as Sitchin but he does a good job of demonstration how the earlier Sumerian religion influenced the later Hebrew one's conception of its God).

On The J author -- the original author of the Torah that invented Yahweh from a hodgepodge of the earlier Gods of that region ( http://www.thesatirist.com/books/BookOfJ.html )

On the Documentary Hypothesis and further elaboration upon how The Torah was conceived (before it's completion four other authors or schools of authors were instrumental in bringing The Bible to its final form (The E author that felt that the J author was wrong in only having one of the gods in her version of the Bible and the later three groups of priestly authors that brought The Bible back to including only one God as it's easier to control the populace when they're only following one God and following the example of ancient Egypt knew that if you could control a populace's beliefs then you could control their actions added most of the laws that are included in The Old Testament)

Wellhausen -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Wellhausen

Massey -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Massey

On The Documentary Hypothesis of the construction of The Torah -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis

 

Next time due a bit of study and research so that you won't be so surprised when a new idea to you that you consider to be ignorant actually turns out to be true.

quick question. what does this thread have anything to do with you wanting to disprove Christianity.

youre in the wrong thread dude, but you can always create you own if you want to, i could show you how if youd like