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MARCUSDJACKSON on 15 July 2011
morenoingrato said:

We should leave this thread here, wait a year and a hlaf, and return to see all the Sony fans quiet

as a sony and Nintnedo fan i doubt it; i mean are any fans of any of the 4 platforms ever quiet when proven wrong?

need i answer? this thread is better off left for dead pun inteneded.



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cyberninja45 on 15 July 2011
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
Mr Khan said:
cyberninja45 said:

Can the PS3 transmitted  HD video wirelessly?

Given that remote play works over the internet, i imagine it would certainly be capable of achieving that locally.


I doubt it. I seen the video on youtube but I cant tell if its wireless. In fact, heck no PS3 doesnt have this feature. What  the hell is thread about?

you being unaware of the feature does not mean "PS3 doesnt have this feature" 

( video of game streaming from ps3 - psp ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

...all it means is that you were unaaware of it

That video is conveniently dark, cant tell if its wireless or even if its a regular ps3 transmitting it.

um dude remote play is a known feature of ps3 it entails wireless transmission of content wireless between p-s3 and psp more details :

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/12/30/ps3-how-to-setting-up-remote-play-between-your-psp-and-ps3/

http://uk.playstation.com/psp/support/network/detail/linked240472/item66124/Remote-Play/

 

why is it so hard to believe that it supported this? what else do you guys think is needed for this other than a wireless connection and enough processing power

No PS3 802.11g  cannot transmit HD video wirelessly. U think there is a way to connect your ps3 to your hdTv wirelessy ( with some wireless adapter for the tv)? Even at 720P? NO.

So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else.

So in a nutshell if u are using this feature:

  • The picture quality will be degraded.
  • U cannot play your games online

IN one sentence

The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly,  stream normally to hdtv, and be connected to the internet all at the same time. Not to the slightest

Which means PS3+ vita cannot do What the WiiU can do. This thread is irrelevant

 

 

 

"The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly"

quick question does the wii u controller output HD? go research that then you'll realise how what you just posted makes no sense

"So in a nutshell"

  • The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u ) 
  • U cannot play your games online ( this point lost me how? )
"So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video ( LIKE THE WII U ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK ITS USING 802.11 ) this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else. i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired 

 

quick question does the wii u controller output HD

The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u )

There are no official specs. And no, counting pixel from videos don't count lol.  But there is no noticeable degradation or any change graphical quality at all in the demos shown at E3. On a 6" screen  WIth the HDTV in front of them to compare. And the Wii U  can use more than 1 controller ( at least twice the resolution).

 

 

i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired

Remote play uses the internet functionality of the PS3 in order to work. Yes even if the psp is in the same room. So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth. Else you can use ps3 wireless and wired connections together and get twice the internet speed. U not gonna find some work around by using a wired connection for internet LOL.



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ElGranCabeza on 15 July 2011
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
No ND.

PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can, nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can.

And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4.

The again, this is what you would expect them to say about the competition.


while i agree with this "And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4."

"PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can" im cuirious as to why you say this since the psp was already capable of this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

"nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can" i'd also like to know how you know that who says the motion sensing on vita isn't better?


Too bad only the shittiest of games supported this. That actually doesn't look that bad.



HappySqurriel on 15 July 2011
o_O.Q said:


theres a huge disparity between a device that only has a screen, memory and a few buttons in  comparison to a device which has accelerometers, mics, a cam, touchscreen, sensor bar etc 

"Ebook readers with far more features can also be picked up for less than $100 today"

you still haven't demonstrated that as the cheapest device you linked while impressive at that price doesn't have half the features of the wii u controller


A ebook reader also has a CPU, internal memory, an internal mass storage device, memory card readers, usb ports and several other components that a "dummy" device like the Wii U controller won't have ...

Outside of a touch screen there is almost nothing (that we know about) that would make the Wii U controller significantly more expensive than what the Wiimote was when it first launched.



HappySqurriel on 15 July 2011
RolStoppable said:
Is this going to be the theme for the foreseeable future?

"X can do everything Wii U can do, except playing Nintendo games."

Couldn't Naughty Dog at least wait until next week? Because this week we already had the OnLive boss saying this.


In a way I think it may be a common theme, and I think it kind of validates Nintendo's approach ... Essentially, no one is claiming that Nintendo's strategy doesn't have value or that it isn't the future, they're just claiming they can (in theory) match the features.



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o_O.Q on 16 July 2011
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
Mr Khan said:
cyberninja45 said:

Can the PS3 transmitted  HD video wirelessly?

Given that remote play works over the internet, i imagine it would certainly be capable of achieving that locally.


I doubt it. I seen the video on youtube but I cant tell if its wireless. In fact, heck no PS3 doesnt have this feature. What  the hell is thread about?

you being unaware of the feature does not mean "PS3 doesnt have this feature" 

( video of game streaming from ps3 - psp ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

...all it means is that you were unaaware of it

That video is conveniently dark, cant tell if its wireless or even if its a regular ps3 transmitting it.

um dude remote play is a known feature of ps3 it entails wireless transmission of content wireless between p-s3 and psp more details :

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/12/30/ps3-how-to-setting-up-remote-play-between-your-psp-and-ps3/

http://uk.playstation.com/psp/support/network/detail/linked240472/item66124/Remote-Play/

 

why is it so hard to believe that it supported this? what else do you guys think is needed for this other than a wireless connection and enough processing power

No PS3 802.11g  cannot transmit HD video wirelessly. U think there is a way to connect your ps3 to your hdTv wirelessy ( with some wireless adapter for the tv)? Even at 720P? NO.

So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else.

So in a nutshell if u are using this feature:

  • The picture quality will be degraded.
  • U cannot play your games online

IN one sentence

The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly,  stream normally to hdtv, and be connected to the internet all at the same time. Not to the slightest

Which means PS3+ vita cannot do What the WiiU can do. This thread is irrelevant

 

 

 

"The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly"

quick question does the wii u controller output HD? go research that then you'll realise how what you just posted makes no sense

"So in a nutshell"

  • The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u ) 
  • U cannot play your games online ( this point lost me how? )
"So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video ( LIKE THE WII U ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK ITS USING 802.11 ) this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else. i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired 

 

quick question does the wii u controller output HD

The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u )

There is no official specs. And no, counting pixel from videos don't count lol.  But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3. On a 6" screen  WIth the HDTV in front of them to compare. And the Wii U  can support more than 1 controller ( at least twice the resolution).

 

 

i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired

Remote play uses the internet functions of the PS3 in order to work. So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth. Else you can use ps3 wireless and wired connections together and get twice the internet speed. U not gonna find some work around by using a wired connection for internet LOL.

im beginning to get the idea that this is pointless "But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3"

the resolution of the tablet screen confirmed by nintendo ( up till now but may be revised later on ) : 854 x 480 (WVGA) 

high def resolution ( bare minimum ) : 1280×720 ( 720p ) 

whats going on up there? / please explain that to me and how it correlates with what you keep posted

 

"So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth"

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain 

 

look man all i ask if you try to debate me is at least to try to make an effort to educate yourself on whats going...



o_O.Q on 16 July 2011
HappySqurriel said:
o_O.Q said:


theres a huge disparity between a device that only has a screen, memory and a few buttons in  comparison to a device which has accelerometers, mics, a cam, touchscreen, sensor bar etc 

"Ebook readers with far more features can also be picked up for less than $100 today"

you still haven't demonstrated that as the cheapest device you linked while impressive at that price doesn't have half the features of the wii u controller


A ebook reader also has a CPU, internal memory, an internal mass storage device, memory card readers, usb ports and several other components that a "dummy" device like the Wii U controller won't have ...

Outside of a touch screen there is almost nothing (that we know about) that would make the Wii U controller significantly more expensive than what the Wiimote was when it first launched.

apparently cameras, mics, sensor bars, etc don't cost anything to incorporate into controllers that would otherwise cost $50 - $60 but regardless discussing this any further is pointless i guess we have to agree to disagree on this



angelsaremyplaything on 16 July 2011
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
Mr Khan said:
cyberninja45 said:

Can the PS3 transmitted  HD video wirelessly?

Given that remote play works over the internet, i imagine it would certainly be capable of achieving that locally.


I doubt it. I seen the video on youtube but I cant tell if its wireless. In fact, heck no PS3 doesnt have this feature. What  the hell is thread about?

you being unaware of the feature does not mean "PS3 doesnt have this feature" 

( video of game streaming from ps3 - psp ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

...all it means is that you were unaaware of it

That video is conveniently dark, cant tell if its wireless or even if its a regular ps3 transmitting it.

um dude remote play is a known feature of ps3 it entails wireless transmission of content wireless between p-s3 and psp more details :

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/12/30/ps3-how-to-setting-up-remote-play-between-your-psp-and-ps3/

http://uk.playstation.com/psp/support/network/detail/linked240472/item66124/Remote-Play/

 

why is it so hard to believe that it supported this? what else do you guys think is needed for this other than a wireless connection and enough processing power

No PS3 802.11g  cannot transmit HD video wirelessly. U think there is a way to connect your ps3 to your hdTv wirelessy ( with some wireless adapter for the tv)? Even at 720P? NO.

So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else.

So in a nutshell if u are using this feature:

  • The picture quality will be degraded.
  • U cannot play your games online

IN one sentence

The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly,  stream normally to hdtv, and be connected to the internet all at the same time. Not to the slightest

Which means PS3+ vita cannot do What the WiiU can do. This thread is irrelevant

Couldn't they just use the psvs processer to upscale it to HD video acheiveing the exact same thing (assuming you are right, and the reason for non HD is the ps3 not psp)



o_O.Q on 16 July 2011
ElGranCabeza said:
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
No ND.

PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can, nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can.

And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4.

The again, this is what you would expect them to say about the competition.


while i agree with this "And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4."

"PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can" im cuirious as to why you say this since the psp was already capable of this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

"nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can" i'd also like to know how you know that who says the motion sensing on vita isn't better?


Too bad only the shittiest of games supported this. That actually doesn't look that bad.

whats with the cussing?

 

when i read your comment i had this impression of you

 

 naughty dogs comments were never about the games in question but only about the capabilities of the devices... just chill out



o_O.Q on 16 July 2011
angelsaremyplaything said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
Mr Khan said:
cyberninja45 said:

Can the PS3 transmitted  HD video wirelessly?

Given that remote play works over the internet, i imagine it would certainly be capable of achieving that locally.


I doubt it. I seen the video on youtube but I cant tell if its wireless. In fact, heck no PS3 doesnt have this feature. What  the hell is thread about?

you being unaware of the feature does not mean "PS3 doesnt have this feature" 

( video of game streaming from ps3 - psp ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

...all it means is that you were unaaware of it

That video is conveniently dark, cant tell if its wireless or even if its a regular ps3 transmitting it.

um dude remote play is a known feature of ps3 it entails wireless transmission of content wireless between p-s3 and psp more details :

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/12/30/ps3-how-to-setting-up-remote-play-between-your-psp-and-ps3/

http://uk.playstation.com/psp/support/network/detail/linked240472/item66124/Remote-Play/

 

why is it so hard to believe that it supported this? what else do you guys think is needed for this other than a wireless connection and enough processing power

No PS3 802.11g  cannot transmit HD video wirelessly. U think there is a way to connect your ps3 to your hdTv wirelessy ( with some wireless adapter for the tv)? Even at 720P? NO.

So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else.

So in a nutshell if u are using this feature:

  • The picture quality will be degraded.
  • U cannot play your games online

IN one sentence

The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly,  stream normally to hdtv, and be connected to the internet all at the same time. Not to the slightest

Which means PS3+ vita cannot do What the WiiU can do. This thread is irrelevant

Couldn't they just use the psvs processer to upscale it to HD video acheiveing the exact same thing (assuming you are right, and the reason for non HD is the ps3 not psp)

he doesn't have the slightest idea about what hes trying to comment on so i wouldn't take his posts too seriously he just told me that theres no lost of video quality going from the wii u to its controller ( the wii u has full hd 1080p support but the controller is only WVGA ) and that apparently the ps3 cannot multitask connectivity with devices