The second video drives some good points. I personally believe in the illuminati so I believe that 9/11 was caused by own goverment. Still, you can't expect most people to believe it or at least hear you out before laughing in your face, it's a very edgy topic.

In my first post i replied to how shoddy the op's evidence was just with common sense... I ended the post saying it may have been an internal job

After reading the bebunking 9/11 website im going to say the "evidence" that the opposition provides is completely whack...

When someone said "pull" is a demolition term I automatically thought... "or it means to pull back to safety" and thats exactly what silverstien said he meant.

When the other side said "no high rise has been collapsed by fires alone" I thought "Has any high rise had a kamakazee fly into them?"

And when someone said "it took 7 seconds for the building to collapse" I thought... "thats weird.... i never knew you could be inside a building which collapsed and survive... because thats the only way he would be able to tell how the internal structure was holding up before the building collapsed. Most likely the building was falling apart internally before it collapsed completely"

That video is atually whack... Piss poor evidence. Also, how does bush lying prove anything? lol...

Or maybe they made it so "complex" so that anyone that had questions could be then made as a fool, idiot, etc...  It isn't like a thousand people were directly involved.   They could have been involved and not even known it.   I already gave instances like the Manhattan Project and tank development during WW1 where numerous people were involved that didn't have the slightest clue what they were actually helping make. 

Anyways, I would probably sit back and be able to take "what really happened" as the decent truth if it wasn't the fact of so many things.  How the hell does the WTC collapse within 1 hour and the other 2 hours.  The fires didn't even look 1/100 as bad as other skyscraper fires which didn't collapse.  You even have radio communication from firefighters at the floors of impact saying the fires were sporadic and should be contained/put out soon (right before the collapse).  Most of the jet fuel burned outside the buildings at impact.  So how does a fire that is barely burning weaken the steel for a building designed to take impacts from jetliner/possibly multiple impacts.  You would think that even if it did fail that it would take 10-20 hours at least not 1-2..... 

Its hilarious how the theorist can only say word for word what the videos suggest... yet the naysayers are the brainwashed ones... They keep asking the same questions that have been answered... Its hilarious how they convienently ignore facts... just like sethnintendo just did

So I was debunked by the Pentagon because they released a video showing????  You can't even make out what the hell the object is.  It surely doesn't look like a plane in their video.  How come they couldn't release another footage from the numerous cameras they had at the location.  Why couldn't they release footage that actually showed a plane hit the Pentagon?  Why did the FBI confiscate the tapes of a gas station that had a camera pointed at the exact impact location?

The problem is most of the answers either have serious flaws in them or they exclude things to make their point.  Just like the independent "research" of the Pentagon crash.  Basically they said the plane turned into a huge fireball.  If you look at their little mock up video they don't even take the engines into consideration.  You just see a plane wing disintegrate when it hits the building.  I am sure the plane engines (which couldn't fit the hole) just burnt up right on impact.

Youre right, an object that is made out of what you drink coke out of and hit dead on into a building with walls made out reinforced concrete doesnt look like a plane... in fact, i'm sure nothing would look like itself after that type of impact... let me hurl you into a building at 500mph and see if you look like a human being still...

Strong, lightweight, corrosion-resistant, thermally stable components are essential to the viability of any aircraft design, and certain materials have been developed to provide these and other desirable traits. Titanium, first created in sufficiently pure form for commercial use during the 1950s, is utilized in the most critical engine components. While it is very difficult to shape, its extreme hardness renders it strong when subjected to intense heat. To improve its malleability titanium is often alloyed with other metals such as nickel and aluminum. All three metals are prized by the aerospace industry because of their relatively high strength/weight ratio.

The intake fan at the front of the engine must be extremely strong so that it doesn't fracture when large birds and other debris are sucked into its blades; it is thus made of a titanium alloy. The intermediate compressor is made from aluminum, while the high pressure section nearer the intense heat of the combustor is made of nickel and titanium alloys better able to withstand extreme temperatures. The combustion chamber is also made of nickel and titanium alloys, and the turbine blades, which must endure the most intense heat of the engine, consist of nickel-titanium-aluminum alloys. Often, both the combustion chamber and the turbine receive special ceramic coatings that better enable them to resist heat. The inner duct of the exhaust system is crafted from titanium, while the outer exhaust duct is made from composites—synthetic fibers held together with resins. Although fiberglass was used for years, it is now being supplanted by Kevlar, which is even lighter and stronger. The thrust reverser consists of titanium alloy.

Lol, you were complaining that it looked like a cruise missle...  and how the fuck are we suppose to see under the rubble to find the engines? Also, fuck yeah the FBI took footage and wont release it to their most secreative building in the country... it's obvious you have no common sense if you are hell bent on ignore facts and keep asking the same questions thats been answered.