YEY someone smart. Good games was perhaps a poor choice of wording on my part, but some people here defent the PS3 blindly, and I find that the purpose of the my arguement gets ignored so people can be nitpicky on my wording. I have made similar arguements against MS since 360's lineup is very generic (Halo, Forza, Gears, Kinect, Dance Central, all again), but people never critisize my wording or claims on 360. Why is that?

My arguement holds much better for AAA titles, none of the PS3 games announced have AAA production values. I later changed my arguement to focus on AAA titles, instead of "good games."

I should have said, quality games, because as well built as a game like Batman is, not everyone likes it, just like you say.

Maybe my harsh claims give me a bad reputation, but I find the forums largely PS3 biased. I say the same things for both the 360 and PS3, and only get heckled on PS3 claims. Older memeber of VGChartz have seen this, and I think I can make much more civil debates with them.

I'm not going to change my views, or points just because the majority (on this website, not necessarily in life) say so. If Sly Cooper is a cool adult game, so is Dance Central 2, simple as that.

Anyway, back to the debate at hand, why do you feel the PS3 announcements far outweight the 360 ones? Sony announced Ruin, Sly Cooper, Medevil Moves, and God of War Origins Collection for the PS3. That's 3 new games, and 1 direct port compatible with 3D play (but no graphical upgrade, a straight port). Of those games, only Ruin, Medevil Moves and God of War Origins are being released this fall.

Microsoft announced Ryse, Fable, Dance Central 2, Kinect Sports 2, Halo Remake, and Halo 4. Of those games Dance Central 2, Kinect Sports 2, and Halo Combat Evolved Annicersary are coming out this fall. 3 games a peice, the only difference is the 360 has 1 AAA title, and PS3 has 1 port.

After this fall MS still has 3 more new game announcements to fall back on. Halo 4, Fable, and Ryse. Sony only announced 1 2012 game, and that was Sly Cooper, so here MS clearly wins.

Fair enough.

I'm sounding hypocritical, right.

Halo is remade, God of War collections is a port. This is completly different. If they took the PSP interations and made them look like God of War 3, then that would count.

I did not count Ryse as AAA, I said it and Medevil Moves are about the same quality. Good, but nothing special. I bolded my initial comment for clarity, please re-read. I'm not personally interested in Starhawk or Dust (and until you play Eve, you shouldn't be either).

Okay, if you want to start counting Dust as a great game, have you ever played Eve? It's set in the Eve Universe. Is Eve a AAA MMO? No, so for the same reason this game is meh. It's only real importance is it allows cross platform play, which is a big slap to MS's face, as online gaming should be free and cross platform.

Dust 514 isn't even PS3 exclusive, so why are we even counting it?

K take Minecraft out, I don't know much about that game. I think it's an XBL game anyway, and I never count XBL PSN games. This is my mistake and I didn't even notice it at E3.

Ruin, I only saw it played on PS Vita. I guess it's an extra game for PS3, but still Meh as it's a portable game too. You can think it's great, I won't argue, but it's not AAA, it's just a typical RPG.

Also play Dance central. You want to include a kids game like Sly Cooper, and then ignore Dance Central 2 and Kinect Sports 2 because they are too kiddie? Go play it, this is where you show some bias, it's fun as hell.

Fable, and Sly are meh. Not AAA. I put Fable on the same level as Dust, and before you try putting Dust on, play Everquest.

Resistance and Uncharted were not announced this year. Counting them would be like counting Gears or Forza 4. Common, you know I'm right, you making pretty lame areguments now.

Also Starhawk is probably as good as Warhawk, or Borderlands. It will be a good game, but it isn't a AAA game like Uncharted, and at very best it will sell sub 2 million. I counted this game, but it's nothing jaw dropping. The only HD exclusive games shown that were jaw dropping were Halo's, Gears, Forza, Uncharted, Resistance, and InFamous. Out of those, the only newly announced games this E3 were the two Halo's.

After those 2 Halo's you get a bunch of good-meh games. Ryse, Medevil Moves, Sly Cooper, Fable, Dance Central 2, Kinect Sports 2, Starhawk, and Ruin were nothing special. You expect more from console developers.

Honestly AAA games are games like Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim, Batman, or Call of Duty. Do you really think an MMO such as Dust or Sly Cooper comes close to those production values?

Sony had no big announcment for the PS3 this fall, they only showed new good or meh games. MS did largely the same thing, but at least they had some AAA titles, and yes I know it's Halo, a lot of people say the franchise is being milked, but the 360 has only seen 2 primary Halo titles, where other franchises are seeing a third installment now (Gears, Uncharted, Resistance, and Forza).

Stop trying to demean me by ending your arguements with critisisms. That's in itself is a sign that you're stuggling to make a point.

I never claimed any of the Kinect games Microsoft announced were AAA, I only said Halo's were AAA. Don't twist what I have to say. Other then Halo's, both Sony and MS failed to show any really exciting games. Some games looked good, but really compared to third party software.....not really. Who in the right mind would put down Mass Effect 3, Battlefield, or Elder Scrolls V for Ryse, Medevil Moves, Ruin, or Fable. Maybe they would put it down for Dance Central 2 or Kinect Sports 2 as they are interesting, but these are not new IP's, they are nothing really special.

MS's 360 had a better show then Sony's PS3 portion, simple as that. More decent/good games, and they actually showed a couple new AAA titles. Yea Sony had Uncharted and Resistance, but MS had Gears and Forza. MS was better against the PS3 portion and I showed it.

Michael, i have have just realized it is completely useless arguing with you.

HaHa! See, I make sence when people read what I have to say.

However, in reality what happens is people read an Anti-PS3 comment, and basically ignore my post to make an arguement I never brought up. MS was better :P.

why did it take so long man? why so long? :P

i dont know why, i some reason just thought that we were on good enough grounds for him to see his hypocrasy.

but my efforts are to no avail, oh well.

im still rather good at arguing and winning (destroying) with people in person.