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Kantor said:
Which begs the question: Why, exactly, do we all love Obama so much?

I like him as a person. He does seem sincere. He has his head in the right place. He's a good speaker, he's charismatic, and (from an objective point of view) he's good looking. Since the majority of people don't really care about such dull things as policies or economic success, especially when they don't live in the country, I would say that's the reason.

Good looking, what are you on Kantor?



 

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Well as one of the few people in this thread that can vote for him I will again and possibly campaign for him again. In our two party system when your forced to vote for the lesser of two evils, I would die before voting republican. Also if he implemented every policy during his first term he might not get reelected, so I expect him to do a little more in his second term.



chocoloco said:

Well as one of the few people in this thread that can vote for him I will again and possibly campaign for him again. In our two party system when your forced to vote for the lesser of two evils, I would die before voting republican. Also if he implemented every policy during his first term he might not get reelected, so I expect him to do a little more in his second term.


You do realize that one of the core reasons the American two party system is so awful is that people insist on voting for one party regardless of how bad it gets, and would never consider voting for the other party which prevents them from adopting policies you would support?

Your stance essentially ensures that neither party is good, and the only reason you vote for one is some arbitrary association you have with that party ...



After a certain age, I never expected any future president truly capable of making many positive changes that change the way you or I live.

All I want from the guy, is to make as few people hate America as possible. He's doing a good job on that, so I'm satisfied. I liked Clinton too, but then again, I'm "naive".

Ask anyone else, and the only Pres they did not complain about was FDR!



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SaviorX said:
After a certain age, I never expected any future president truly capable of making many positive changes that change the way you or I live.

All I want from the guy, is to make as few people hate America as possible. He's doing a good job on that, so I'm satisfied. I liked Clinton too, but then again, I'm "naive".

Ask anyone else, and the only Pres they did not complain about was FDR!


Lots of people didn't like FDR, I just doubt many of them are alive anymore



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HappySqurriel said:
chocoloco said:

Well as one of the few people in this thread that can vote for him I will again and possibly campaign for him again. In our two party system when your forced to vote for the lesser of two evils, I would die before voting republican. Also if he implemented every policy during his first term he might not get reelected, so I expect him to do a little more in his second term.


You do realize that one of the core reasons the American two party system is so awful is that people insist on voting for one party regardless of how bad it gets, and would never consider voting for the other party which prevents them from adopting policies you would support?

Your stance essentially ensures that neither party is good, and the only reason you vote for one is some arbitrary association you have with that party ...

That would be alright if there actually was a party that even comes close to challenging republicans or democrats. As a moderate liberal I like democrats ideas on enviornmental, and social welfare so I vote them in hoping laws will pass. Since the House and Senate is deeply divided nothing gets done so I don't believe in just blaming the stagnation of government on one man.  Basically, I do vote for the party I want I just know that empty promises are always made by whom ever is trying to gain leadership, it just is a reality.



Obama is a solid president but I feel he could be great if he didn't have to deal with the poisonous American politics system and 24 hour news cycle. He hasn't been able to truly articulate to the people what he is doing while republicans continue to use sound bites effectively against him.



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Seece said:
Kantor said:
Which begs the question: Why, exactly, do we all love Obama so much?

I like him as a person. He does seem sincere. He has his head in the right place. He's a good speaker, he's charismatic, and (from an objective point of view) he's good looking. Since the majority of people don't really care about such dull things as policies or economic success, especially when they don't live in the country, I would say that's the reason.

Good looking, what are you on Kantor?

He always tops the "best-looking President" lists.



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Seece said:
Kantor said:
Which begs the question: Why, exactly, do we all love Obama so much?

I like him as a person. He does seem sincere. He has his head in the right place. He's a good speaker, he's charismatic, and (from an objective point of view) he's good looking. Since the majority of people don't really care about such dull things as policies or economic success, especially when they don't live in the country, I would say that's the reason.

Good looking, what are you on Kantor?

Well... for a President...



SaviorX said:
After a certain age, I never expected any future president truly capable of making many positive changes that change the way you or I live.

All I want from the guy, is to make as few people hate America as possible. He's doing a good job on that, so I'm satisfied. I liked Clinton too, but then again, I'm "naive".

Ask anyone else, and the only Pres they did not complain about was FDR!

I think you have the wrong Roosevelt.

Teddy is generally the consensus "Everyone likes" president.

A lot of people don't like FDR.

Largely economists, historians and history enthusiasts.

 

While most people think his leadership got us out of the great depression, for most economists at best he didn't prolong or make it worse... with a lot of economists taking the opposite route.  Not even Keynesian economists think he saved it, but instead point to WW2 and claim it's like government intervention.


Whole historian wise... when you get to all his civil rights abuses, his chronic cheating on his wife, his attempt to destroy the supreme court by making it so the president could just keep appointing judges until he got a result he liked.  His imprisoment of a completely innocent man who overheard conversations with Churchill that stated the EXACT opposite of what he was campaigning on at the time.  His literal suggestion of the actual physical castration of the German population.  Price controlled the crap out of everything and paid farmers to NOT grow food to constrain the food supply... rampant union breaking despite the fact that he was supposed to be the little guy... used the FBI and IRS to dig up dirt on political enemies, internment of the Japanese, shutting down the press that disagreed with him... and much more!

Roosevelt was actually one of the most ghastily horrible presidents... but gets a pass because getting us in the war to singlehandidly win WW2 and prevent the people of today from living in one of those horrible alternate universes run by nazis that are always in the media.