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3rd parties rejecting the Wii is a lose-lose situation?

Lose-Lose. It's true. 38 50.67%
 
Nah, is just market saturation 20 26.67%
 
I blame WiiFit 17 22.67%
 
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I think it was a lose-lose for Japan. They shouldve supported it with at least more PS2/PSP crossovers. No reason the PS2 should have had any exclusives over there after 2007; and no reason the PSP should receive all these titles when they Literally  won't surpass 150k anywhere else in the world. If Japan was really adamant about catering to a global market, they should've made some stuff for the market leader.

 

For everywhere else, I blame Wii Fit :P



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oniyide said:

@milkyjoe that actually makes alot of sense, but in their defense, those genres they dont make are not that easy to do on any console IMHO. I cant think of alot of Zelda clones on any console period. The only thing i can think of is the Okami and even that was a port of a PS2 game and it did alright. Fighting games, i agree with you there some of those were just downright bad and the good ones were mostly ports and compilations. Kart racers, ive seen a few on WiiWare but the less said about those the better, racing games in general have gone down in production. Platformers, there were quite a few even before NSMBWii released. A boy and his blob, Klonoa, de blob 1&2, ivy the Kiwi, they all did pretty crappy.  If your a third party wouldnt it be easier to slap together a half ass dancing game and mini game collection or to actual have a decent dev team sit down and try to make something halfway decent?? im thinking the former, and I dont agree with it but i dont think its them hating on Ninty, just good old fashioned laziness

You forgot that they also release them and let them live or die by themselves instead of actually put out some advertising and promotion.

An IP few people know isn't going to sell itself.

I've never seen a poster for 3rd party Wii games but see the PS3 and Xbox360 posters all the time. More Xbox360.



@galaki thats true too, they also get alot less attention in the media compared to the HDs, but that is on publishers, but the console runners also play a part. lets face it, MS loves to advertise crap. Im not saying Ninty needs to go millions of dollars in but a little more push would have helped, maybe.



market saturation due to hardware reliability..... that's the only true reason it stops selling... Who here hasn't bought 2 PS2s but bought 2 Wiis?



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I wouldn't say it's lose-lose. Maybe it's silly abandoning ALL support, but after 5.6 years into a generation, we can't expect awesome sales all around, and with 2 new consoles around the corner, what do you expect?



 

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I'd say it's definitely a lose-lose. 

The Wii has been the first console for a lot of gamers, young and old. Those newcomers are going to think Resident Evil is a decent rail-shooter franchise, Castlevania is a mediocre fighting franchise, and Soul Calibur is a series of crappy action adventures.

Publishers have been deliberately sabotaging their own brands in the eyes of the next generation of gamers. 

And then they wonder why they can't compete with Nintendo.



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
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^^^^ i think most people are smart enough to know that is not the case with those franchises or at least they have friends with HDs/PCs to show them how they really are, or hell some older consoles or better yet just get some damn GC games



famousringo said:

I'd say it's definitely a lose-lose. 

The Wii has been the first console for a lot of gamers, young and old. Those newcomers are going to think Resident Evil is a decent rail-shooter franchise, Castlevania is a mediocre fighting franchise, and Soul Calibur is a series of crappy action adventures.

Publishers have been deliberately sabotaging their own brands in the eyes of the next generation of gamers. 

And then they wonder why they can't compete with Nintendo.

Oh, please...

I think it is entirely Nintendo's fault for making low budget games and releasing a console that was a generation behind the other two.



oniyide said:

^^^^ i think most people are smart enough to know that is not the case with those franchises or at least they have friends with HDs/PCs to show them how they really are, or hell some older consoles or better yet just get some damn GC games


Some will, and that'll help, but even if people are later exposed to that information, the publishers still didn't get 'em young. One of the reasons why people line up for Resident Evil 15, Final Fantasy XXVI, and Super Mario Eleventy-Nine is the nostalgia factor. The names and symbols are familiar and conjure up images of a carefree youth. That's part of how you build an enduring mega-franchise.

Think of how easy it is to identify the users on this site as NES generation, Playstation generation, or even Genesis generation.

For the Wii generation, those nostalgia games are going to be Wii Sports, Mario Kart, and NSMB. No Metal Gear. No Final Fantasy. No Street Fighter. Like an absentee parent, the third party franchises just. weren't. there.



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
*Image indefinitely borrowed from BrainBoxLtd without his consent.

^^^^ third party franchises werent there??? sure they were they were on PS360/PC.  Your not giving children enough credit, they talk to each other. YOu dont think they know whats up and what game is on what console??? Sure they do. And lets get real, im pretty sure all those millions of HD consoles sold i know for a fact that some of them were sold to new gamers. So for those little tikes there in pretty good hands and they will naturally school there classmates and buddies on how these franchises really gets down, at least thats the way i used to do it