Wow... you didn't even bother to come up with a remotely analgous situation.

Say you like to make your money by digging through the trash and blackmailing people or stealing their identity.

Who you pick is really very random, sometimes richer people, sometimes poorer, and whether or not you score is based on if they shred their mail with identificiation.

Lets say it's a well known fact that these people tend to believe in little league.  (Like how most hackers likely know more about technology and therefore are pro-modding.)

You Bud Selig knowing full well you don't shred your paper, and that people like that are big trouble thing "Hey I'm going to start a big lawsuit vs a little league league in a poor neighberhood because one of their teams are the mariniers!"

Yeah... i'd say you should TOTALLY see that coming.  Since you are basically picking your targets at random before then... why wouldn't you start with people you don't like first.

You don't think liberal hackers target consvertive buisnesses first and conservative hackers target your liberal companies first?

Common sense.

I mean... why else does basically EVERY other technology company try to at least accomadate hackers a little?

You don't see Nintendo or Microsoft sueing the people who hacked the Wii or 360.

um what you posted has less to do with what i was originally reffering to than my last post, that is, how sony or any entity can be aware of whatever actions may offend another entity and what the offended entity may do to get back. I likened this to instead of hacking the skill in question being carpentry, furthermore i said let the assuption be made that like with the geohot case that the carpenter is a friend of the offended person ( not to say that the hackers are friends with geohot but that they view him favourably in this context ).

I never went into sony's security methods or whatever because obviously thats irrelevant because regardless at this point we know ( or at least its been speculated ) that they were inadequate.

And as was the case with geohot's case i said that the friend of the offended person ( according to what you're saying ) uses their skill to get even and ( again according to what you said ) the victim should be aware of the attack.

What you just posted shows that you're making the assuption that the behavior and organisation of hackers is common knowledge ( which it maybe but until a few weeks ago i personally didn't know much about anon but now i know much more ) 

Your analogy is dumb because carpenters don't go around disassembling houses left and right for lulz. Meanwhile that's what hackers do and therefore need a lot less provocation. Furthermore hacking isn't a job, it's a hobby.

in this context it doesn't matter if its a job or hobby my point is that its a skill which may be used to cause harm to others... "therefore need a lot less provocation" again you're also making the assuption that the behavior and organisation of hackers is common knowledge.... but is it?... you really think if you ask the common guy on the street who anon is and what they do he'll know?

No it matters a lot, because in one case you are dong something out of the need to feed yourself, the other you do for shits and giggles.

You are digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole. Though i do agree, the security executives at Sony seem about as competent as a hobo on the street.

i still don't see why it matters... its a skill that you are using against someone who offended your friend... but regardless if thats the case lets say its not your profession merely a skill you have and you merely to do it yourself projects on the weekend

edit : btw i never said ( before you posted ) that it was to viewed as a profession merely as a skill the person has, you made that assuption

Can you remain anonymous when you destroy someone's house?

Your analogy failed on many, MANY, levels, just drop it for your own good.

if the person's house is isolated and the time is right yes but i suppose to a certain extent you're right... but i suppose i figured it should be obvious that i didn't mean carpentry exactly but a skill which may be used to harm another... furthermore the issue of anonymity wasn't an issue in terms of what i originally posted - someone is offended by someone else, a friend then supports that friend by uing a skill to cause harm to the offender - anonymity doesn't really have to play a part in that... if the offender in sony's situation wasn't anonymous and was known it woudn't have changed the fact that the hack occured and that some people would have expected sony to predict it... but regardless lets say its a skill that can be used to cause harm and remain anonymous

I wasn't talking about just carpentry either. There are very few skills which are done for shits and giggles like hacking, that can cause such damage. You said it yourself, the common hobo wouldn't know about hackers, liek the security executives it seems, but the peopl ein Sony should be very aware of how hacker culture works. Incompetence, on several layers, bit them in the ass.

well thats assuptions you're making first off yes there are several skills that can be used for harm that is hard to trace ( the shits and giggles thing doesn't really have anything to do with this if )  - for example people who have experience in administering drugs, people with certain technical skills etc

"peopl ein Sony should be very aware of how hacker culture works" really? i understand why but honestly can either of us say with certainty that that is the case with any of the networks we use?

"Incompetence, on several layers, bit them in the ass." i can't confirm that any of the things i've read or heard are true but if they are yes absolutely... but honestly im quite sure that had they had far more protection the result would have been the same but it would probably have taken longer to achieve ( does that excuse negligence, no ) the hackers seemed to have been extremely determined to have sony pay in some way