vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:
Your analogy is dumb because carpenters don't go around disassembling houses left and right for lulz. Meanwhile that's what hackers do and therefore need a lot less provocation. Furthermore hacking isn't a job, it's a hobby.
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in this context it doesn't matter if its a job or hobby my point is that its a skill which may be used to cause harm to others... "therefore need a lot less provocation" again you're also making the assuption that the behavior and organisation of hackers is common knowledge.... but is it?... you really think if you ask the common guy on the street who anon is and what they do he'll know?
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No it matters a lot, because in one case you are dong something out of the need to feed yourself, the other you do for shits and giggles.
You are digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole. Though i do agree, the security executives at Sony seem about as competent as a hobo on the street.
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i still don't see why it matters... its a skill that you are using against someone who offended your friend... but regardless if thats the case lets say its not your profession merely a skill you have and you merely to do it yourself projects on the weekend
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Can you remain anonymous when you destroy someone's house?
Your analogy failed on many, MANY, levels, just drop it for your own good.
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if the person's house is isolated and the time is right yes but i suppose to a certain extent you're right... but i suppose i figured it should be obvious that i didn't mean carpentry exactly but a skill which may be used to harm another... furthermore the issue of anonymity wasn't an issue in terms of what i originally posted - someone is offended by someone else, a friend then supports that friend by uing a skill to cause harm to the offender - anonymity doesn't really have to play a part in that... if the offender in sony's situation wasn't anonymous and was known it woudn't have changed the fact that the hack occured and that some people would have expected sony to predict it... but regardless lets say its a skill that can be used to cause harm and remain anonymous
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I wasn't talking about just carpentry either. There are very few skills which are done for shits and giggles like hacking, that can cause such damage. You said it yourself, the common hobo wouldn't know about hackers, liek the security executives it seems, but the peopl ein Sony should be very aware of how hacker culture works. Incompetence, on several layers, bit them in the ass.
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well thats assuptions you're making first off yes there are several skills that can be used for harm that is hard to trace ( the shits and giggles thing doesn't really have anything to do with this if ) - for example people who have experience in administering drugs, people with certain technical skills etc
"peopl ein Sony should be very aware of how hacker culture works" really? i understand why but honestly can either of us say with certainty that that is the case with any of the networks we use?
"Incompetence, on several layers, bit them in the ass." i can't confirm that any of the things i've read or heard are true but if they are yes absolutely... but honestly im quite sure that had they had far more protection the result would have been the same but it would probably have taken longer to achieve ( does that excuse negligence, no ) the hackers seemed to have been extremely determined to have sony pay in some way
