Can't we just all admit the PS3 version is the better version this time regardless of how some feels toward a console. I mean come on 360 had a better version of GTA 4 and wayyyyy better version of RDR.

Passe? Are you implying disc swapping was chic at one time?

You are under the illusion that swapping discs after hours and hours is a big deal. Or maybe you're just reaching for anything to make PS3 using Bluray not seem like a bad choice. Sony lost record amounts of money and what do they have to show for it? You don't have to get up to swap a disc. Money well spent!

When PC games need bluray i will see the need. Until then I am fine with DVD or multiple DVD's or download. But if PC's the graphic king do not need bluray than why do xbox's?

Wait. Let me get this right.

Some of you thought that disc swapping would be like loading the game from the beginning (main menu)?

LOL.

Think of it as installing software on Windows where it prompts you to insert the next disc and hit any key to continue. Good luck finding that Any key, though.

Disc swapping was annoying on PC too, my favourite platform, and it had a peak during the transition from CD to DVD, when DVD was still expensive and not present in the majority of PCs yet, so SW houses released their biggest (as size, not necessarily success) games on multiple CDs, with no complete HDD install option when average HDD space was less than 40GB, and often only the most successful received a DVD version immediately or later, when a budget edition was released (and often only the most successful received total install - no CD patches).

If PS3 has an advantage, it's pointless to deny it, and during the transition from DVD to BD it's destined to be most evident. And if Sony paid a lot for it, initially selling PS3 at a loss, good for its users.

Immediately after PS3 situation comes the PC, currently, as HDD size grew enough in the last 10 years to allow complete installs even of the biggest games, so we PC users, not having Sony partially funding a BDD adoption for us, can wait for prices to drop and install from DVDs still avoiding disc swaps after the initial installation effort.

Third comes Wii that being SD needs less space and it's still fine with just one DVD per game.

And on this issue last comes XB360, sorry.

Well, it doesn't take many large textures to cover desert and burned down buildings. That game is not too prety.

Also, give developers a larger disc capacity as standard and they will fill them up, or at least will more frequently excede the capacity of the old medium. Making multi disk games is a production inconvenience.

It's like PC vs Consoles. PC has more power, yet 99% of games run on consoles so we don't ever need a next gen no?

Wow, your being a little bit of a smart ass.

Here it is, plain and simple, I as a consumer have the better option of playing all my games off of one disk, when I'm forced to swap disks on another console, then that makes dealing with that console a nuisance. If Microsoft aren't willing to fix the issue, then that just means more of money will go towards the console that is giving me less of a slight irritation.

Also, like the other 50% of 360 owners, my console sounds like a jet engine, despite being bought in early 2009. I don't want the console to overheat, I want to hear what's going on in the game without any interference from bad hardware design and I don't want to over blow my sound system just so I can avoid the constant roar coming out of my console. If I install my games to the hard drive, it means my console doesn't heat up as much, the roar is toned down to a timid growl and I can happily play my games in peace. Also, like 50% of 360 owners, my hard drive is small, it involves me constantly deleting the multiple disk installs and then replacing them every time I want to play a new game, my transition from Dead Space 2 to Mass Effect 2 brought up this issue. I don't have any of these issues on my PS3, had the 360 had a larger format, then the installing wouldn't be as frequent or as much of a headache.

No other console on the market suffers from these issues, it's one exclusive to the 360, which is odd in this day and age.

Whatever though, my reply was late and I can understand if your not interested in replying, I'm not that interested in jumping back into this, I'll just be repeating myself on an open and shut case issue.

It's ironic that a Sony fan says this in this forum, which is Sonyworld.

And this takes us to another point: people pretending that smaller and more expensive proprietary HDDs aren't just a nuisance with no benefits and just disadvantages for the users compared to standard HDDs.

I'm a PC gamer.