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Mummelmann said:

I still can't get over how cheap hardware is in the US compared to here...


Me too. :(



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naznatips said:

So I set out to build a budget gaming PC that would absolutely trounce my PS360 in capabilities and play almost any game on max with a steady framerate over 40fps. The budget was $550, and all the parts have been ordered, and will arrive late this week or early next week. Here's what I'll be running:

Phenom II X4 3.2 GHz Quad Core
GeForce GTX 550 Ti 
8GB DDR3
Windows 7 64 Bit
1TB HDD (I had an extra lying around, but I'll probably tack on a second internal 1TB HDD later for extra storage)
650w Power Supply (overkill I know, but it should work well regardless)

Parts:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103921&cm_re=Phenom_II-_-19-103-921-_-Product $100 after coupon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138283 $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095&cm_re=8GB_DDR3-_-20-226-095-_-Product $62 after coupon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625 $142
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023 $35 during sale
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986&cm_re=Windows_7_64_OEM-_-32-116-986-_-Product $90 after coupon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159082&cm_re=650_watt_power_supply-_-17-159-082-_-Product $48 after coupon

Total cost: $532. 
Total Hardware Cost (Cost without Windows): $442.

Edit: I also took a DVD burner out of an old computer.


good build. you will have to upgrade the GPU in a few years but really who cares, your going mid-grade GPUs so your fine.

Call me insane, but I'd suggest paying attention to NewEgg's sales and eventually getting a BR drive for cheap. Just two months ago an LG BR burner was $40. Since you, I think, told me you use an HDTV for your monitor it would benefit you greatly. You can make a cheap 7.1 speaker system from walmart for under $100 and PC always has the best sound cards so you would enjoy blu-ray on the system.

This is going to sound mean no matter how I say it...but what's the point in having a dedicated sound card? Onboard sound works fine for me...

Their use comes about only when you spend about $200 on a pair of headphones. Otherwise none, assuming your onboard sound can output 7.1 in the first place. If not then you need a card for that. 
 Hell, one of my headphones is worth $180 and I still didn't bother with a sound card.

It supports 7.1 but I don't have anything that can take advantage of it. My surround sound setup hooked up to my Wii/Dreamcast/GameCube is only 5.1 Dolby Pro Logic II and my headphones are just some generic skullcandy headphones...and a Logitech clear chat headset.



A note on that CPU... It's a re-badged Athlon 2 x4 with a slightly higher clockspeed (It lacks any L3 cache) and not a true Phenom 2 x4 so performance will be lower.

I would also go with a different motherboard, preferebly one that supports Zambezi which is AMD's upcoming CPU based on the Bulldozer architecture for Socket AM3 plus. (It still supports the regular Athlon 2 and Phenom 2 chips.)



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I'd pick Sapphire Radeon HD5850 Xtreme over that 550Ti. It costs about the same and has more processing power making it way better option. If you're thinking about crossfire then you can get two of em and it should completely annihilate the 550ti SLI.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102932&cm_re=5850_xtreme-_-14-102-932-_-Product

Out of stock from Newegg atm though.

Review with benchmarks: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-hd5830-hd5850-xtreme-edition-review-crossfirex/

It's also slightly better card than the 6850



pariz said:
Onibaka said:

Thats cheap!

You know if in Orlando I can buy PC hardware as cheap?

I will go there in july.

Here in Brazil, a similar configuration cost more than the double of that


Just the same in Argentina. And salaries are so low, goddammit.


Brazil I understand... what with the import taxes... what's Argentina's deal?



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naznatips said:

So I set out to build a budget gaming PC that would absolutely trounce my PS360 in capabilities and play almost any game on max with a steady framerate over 40fps. The budget was $550, and all the parts have been ordered, and will arrive late this week or early next week. Here's what I'll be running:

Phenom II X4 3.2 GHz Quad Core
GeForce GTX 550 Ti 
8GB DDR3
Windows 7 64 Bit
1TB HDD (I had an extra lying around, but I'll probably tack on a second internal 1TB HDD later for extra storage)
650w Power Supply (overkill I know, but it should work well regardless)

Parts:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103921&cm_re=Phenom_II-_-19-103-921-_-Product $100 after coupon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138283 $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095&cm_re=8GB_DDR3-_-20-226-095-_-Product $62 after coupon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625 $142
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023 $35 during sale
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986&cm_re=Windows_7_64_OEM-_-32-116-986-_-Product $90 after coupon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159082&cm_re=650_watt_power_supply-_-17-159-082-_-Product $48 after coupon

Total cost: $532. 
Total Hardware Cost (Cost without Windows): $442.

Edit: I also took a DVD burner out of an old computer.


Isn't 8GB RAM a bit unnecessary for a gaming pc? I would go for 4GB RAM and dual GPU capable MB. Then, when the need arises to upgrade performance, you can just pop in more RAM and the second graphics card and you are set again for a while.

It's easier than changind a MB and all that comes with that: possibly new CPU, multiple choices, component hunting, then OS update/possible reinstall.

Otherwise, like many have said: lowww pricess in the US.



ithis said:


Isn't 8GB RAM a bit unnecessary for a gaming pc? I would go for 4GB RAM and dual GPU capable MB. Then, when the need arises to upgrade performance, you can just pop in more RAM and the second graphics card and you are set again for a while.

It's easier than changind a MB and all that comes with that: possibly new CPU, multiple choices, component hunting, then OS update/possible reinstall.

Otherwise, like many have said: lowww pricess in the US.


The consistency of SLI performance is, at best, sketchy. Some games it'll nearly double performance, but most will only get a minor (15%-20%) boost. Worse, many games actually freak out, and look worse with SLI, and washed colors, screen tearing, etc. show up. Considering how much more it costs that's pretty much a waste.

As for all that ram, running 64 bit windows I'll be able to take advantage of it in the future as games begin to allow the extra ram available to 64 bit systems to improve performance. As of right now, no, I won't see a huge difference over 32 bit outside of a few games, but it will be a more consistent benefit than SLI.



Vashyo said:

I'd pick Sapphire Radeon HD5850 Xtreme over that 550Ti. It costs about the same and has more processing power making it way better option. If you're thinking about crossfire then you can get two of em and it should completely annihilate the 550ti SLI.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102932&cm_re=5850_xtreme-_-14-102-932-_-Product

Out of stock from Newegg atm though.

Review with benchmarks: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-hd5830-hd5850-xtreme-edition-review-crossfirex/

It's also slightly better card than the 6850


Price isn't really that close. $140 card versus $185 card, unless Sapphire's model is much cheaper, which would be odd, but moot, since it's listed as deactivated on Newegg and thus won't likely be stocked again for at least a month. You can always find something better if you keep adding money to your budget, but that's not really the point of a budget PC build. Same with the 6850, which is $30 more. 



Pemalite said:

A note on that CPU... It's a re-badged Athlon 2 x4 with a slightly higher clockspeed (It lacks any L3 cache) and not a true Phenom 2 x4 so performance will be lower.

I would also go with a different motherboard, preferebly one that supports Zambezi which is AMD's upcoming CPU based on the Bulldozer architecture for Socket AM3 plus. (It still supports the regular Athlon 2 and Phenom 2 chips.)


I'm aware that it's not a true Phenom, but again, this is a budget build, not an attempt to max performance on all levels. Same deal with the mobo. I can't spend $130 on a mobo and still get a good deal out of my processor and GPU in a build like this. 



naznatips said:


The consistency of SLI performance is, at best, sketchy. Some games it'll nearly double performance, but most will only get a minor (15%-20%) boost. Worse, many games actually freak out, and look worse with SLI, and washed colors, screen tearing, etc. show up. Considering how much more it costs that's pretty much a waste.

As for all that ram, running 64 bit windows I'll be able to take advantage of it in the future as games begin to allow the extra ram available to 64 bit systems to improve performance. As of right now, no, I won't see a huge difference over 32 bit outside of a few games, but it will be a more consistent benefit than SLI.

I've been using SLI since 2009 and have used GTX260 SLI, GTX470 SLI and GTX560 SLI... I have yet to find a game which doesn't get >50% performance boost with the GTX560 cards. It wasn't the case with the GTX260, but 470 and 560 scale like beasts.

Even old games like condemned scale amazingly, while a lot of games have CPU as bottleneck in SLI (FEAR games for example since they run on single core only).