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zgamer5 on 08 May 2011
Jazz2K said:
zgamer5 said:
Jazz2K said:

Playstation domination shouldn't be such a surprise really, at least not at this price point. It's the 360 domination the should come as a surprise.

Remove the weekly sales of Japan for the 360 and the numbers won't change that much the same can't be said for the PS3 so Japan alone makes a big difference. PS3 wins hands down Japan.

Now for EMEAA, PS3 is supposed to be available in more countries than 360 so of course those country have no choice. PS3 wins in other countries.

Once those are cleared out, PS3 domination isn't that true anymore. The countries where both 360 and PS3 are available is either a "estastical tie" or mostly dominated by the 360 and the PS3 taking the lead in smaller markets.

Every weeks, the PS3 sells an average of 20-30k more than 360 to countries where it's not available and to Japan where 360 has no impact at all.

As for the Wii, now that it faces competition from Kinect and the Move, that it lacks new games and with the confirmation of a new console on the horizon, it's just normal that the sales slows down a lot.

That's not domination in my book. It's on par!


how is 360 domination a surprise? its best region from the start has been the us, while it has been ps3's weakes region(rank wise). other then that that 500 million budget for kinect adds was mostly used in the states, and then theirs the demographic of americans which makethe 360 a more useful console for them.

now when it comes to emeaa the 360 isnt availeble in countries in asia and africa. so lets add up numbers without those regions.

360:44.8k

ps3:60k

thats about a 15k difference. now we dont know how significant the sales in those countries in asia and africa are. because if the me gives us half of those sales and the significance would be minimal because the ps brand is huge their, and because the 360 is very poorly supported in that region.

also you cant count out japan its still important. 


I counted out Japan because it makes most of the difference. Remove 360 Japanese sales or keep it there the results are almost the same. I don't remove it because I think it's a non important market, but because to the PS3 domination even if you remove Japan from 360 the PS3 still has the same difference so it's irrelevant in 360's case.

Then we're left with your calculation about EMEAA which we agree on.

Imo a 15k difference spread across countries where PS3 is more implemented or the only HD console to be sold is not domination.

Add all markets bar Japan they're almost selling on par. Now add Japan and PS3 is king, in the end PS3 sells better because it's selling in more countries and because the 360 has no presence in Japan, that's my response to the thread... and it's imo.

its more implemented because of the ps brand, and because of sony's efforts. its like saying that the wii didnt dominate the market because it was the only motion controlled console. and like i said before its not present in the small african/asian countries, so those sales would be insignificant. then theirs the fact that 90% of 360 sales in middle easy and a big percantage of sales in other parts of asia/africa are their because the 360 was jailbreaked early on.

the 360 has much bigger presence in the states, its not like the ps3/360 difference in japan, but its definatly big.

excuses are useless if you also put them from the other side.



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ethomaz on 08 May 2011
Jazz2K said:
I counted out Japan because it makes most of the difference. Remove 360 Japanese sales or keep it there the results are almost the same. I don't remove it because I think it's a non important market, but because to the PS3 domination even if you remove Japan from 360 the PS3 still has the same difference so it's irrelevant in 360's case.

Then we're left with your calculation about EMEAA which we agree on.

Imo a 15k difference spread across countries where PS3 is more implemented or the only HD console to be sold is not domination.

Add all markets bar Japan they're almost selling on par. Now add Japan and PS3 is king, in the end PS3 sells better because it's selling in more countries and because the 360 has no presence in Japan, that's my response to the thread... and it's imo.

It's not true... I can't understand or where this statement comes.

Sales from 02nd Jan 2011 to 30th Apr 2011 without Japan:

PS3: 3,304,431
360: 3,097,449

PS3 leading by 207k without Q4 adjustments for PS3.



ssj12 on 08 May 2011
ethomaz said:

@Jazz2K

I agree, US is the biggest and most important single market.


actually Europe can easily be a bigger and more important market. Especially with the US economy and dollar faultering it would benefit Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo to sell more in Europe than the USA.



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ethomaz on 08 May 2011
ssj12 said:
ethomaz said:

@Jazz2K

I agree, US is the biggest and most important single market.


actually Europe can easily be a bigger and more important market. Especially with the US economy and dollar faultering it would benefit Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo to sell more in Europe than the USA.

Single market .

Europe is a combination of many single markets.



oniyide on 08 May 2011

man some people could hate! i guess there shocked that online is actually not as important as they would like to think, which makes sense, i mean if online was that important Wii would have been dead last the entire gen, Fact is at least half of the people dont care about online. And having a steady stream of games, 1st and 3rd party helps as well



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FinalEvangelion on 08 May 2011

Once Kaz Hirai took over, Sony made a plan and stuck to it.  While MS was busy trying to create hype by securing 3rd party timed exclusives / DLC, Sony was busy making their 1st party - which was a better long term plan.  Now, it has shown results, even if people were mocking the idea back then.

 

Also, Sony does the best job of releasing new games late in the lifecycle.  Nintendo usually starts working on their next console and lets the current console die off.  This generation, MS decided to drastically change to go casual with Kinect.  With the PS2, Sony continued to release new stuff into the PS3's life cycle a couple years.

 

Also, Sony has the most diverse portfolio of games. 



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Jazz2K on 08 May 2011
ethomaz said:
Jazz2K said:
I counted out Japan because it makes most of the difference. Remove 360 Japanese sales or keep it there the results are almost the same. I don't remove it because I think it's a non important market, but because to the PS3 domination even if you remove Japan from 360 the PS3 still has the same difference so it's irrelevant in 360's case.

Then we're left with your calculation about EMEAA which we agree on.

Imo a 15k difference spread across countries where PS3 is more implemented or the only HD console to be sold is not domination.

Add all markets bar Japan they're almost selling on par. Now add Japan and PS3 is king, in the end PS3 sells better because it's selling in more countries and because the 360 has no presence in Japan, that's my response to the thread... and it's imo.

It's not true... I can't understand or where this statement comes.

Sales from 02nd Jan 2011 to 30th Apr 2011 without Japan:

PS3: 3,304,431
360: 3,097,449

PS3 leading by 207k without Q4 adjustments for PS3.


13k on average every week is enough to say that one is dominating? Really? Add Japan and it's 30k every weeks so yeah Japan makes the big difference.

My point still stands, PS3 is selling better mostly because of Japan and other countries than because they have such a better library.

 

edit: where is the "plus" sign????



Mr.Ashtear on 08 May 2011

Bluray  taking off, maybe?



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Albion on 08 May 2011
FinalEvangelion said:

Once Kaz Hirai took over, Sony made a plan and stuck to it.  While MS was busy trying to create hype by securing 3rd party timed exclusives / DLC, Sony was busy making their 1st party - which was a better long term plan.  Now, it has shown results, even if people were mocking the idea back then.

 

Also, Sony does the best job of releasing new games late in the lifecycle.  Nintendo usually starts working on their next console and lets the current console die off.  This generation, MS decided to drastically change to go casual with Kinect.  With the PS2, Sony continued to release new stuff into the PS3's life cycle a couple years.

 

Also, Sony has the most diverse portfolio of games. 

Thats why Sony knows it must defend from hacker's and have done so.



Wagram on 08 May 2011

No compelling software? Must be 2007 again with teh nuu gemez!!!!!!