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Mad55 on 06 May 2011
brendude13 said:
Mad55 said:
brendude13 said:

Sweet, can't wait to pick it up.

Namco are going to need to advertise this game if they want decent sales, this game needs to sell well so they can localise the Tales of Vesperia PS3 content =).


;) it aint coming. if anything graces sales will determine future games like xillia and prob ngp and 3ds tales games.

That's exactly what they said about Graces, don't be so cynical.

They have already made the full game for the Playstation 3, the only thing they need is English VA for the extra content.

I loved the game on the XBOX 360 but that extra content just teases me so much.

come on why release so many old games im not being cynical more realistic. Id rather them put money into a new game then  a game we got.



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Mad55 on 06 May 2011
brendude13 said:
Zucas said:

Ugh only on the PS3.  Games I tend to get on the PS3, which aren't many, don't seem to get played haha.  Probably won't even buy it knowing that truth about me.  Was kinda secretly hoping it would also be ported to the 360 but damnit.  Glad to see Tales getting some western love, but looks like I won't be enjoying it initially.

So if it's PS3 exclusive you won't buy it, but if it's on the XBOX 360 aswell, then you will buy it, despite owning both consoles.

Where is the logic in that? You are going to boycott a great game out of brand loyalty?

I personally don't want to see another Tales game anywhere near the XBOX 360. The majority of XBOX 360 owners have no interest in or respect for the Tales franchise or the JRPG genre as a whole, hence the low sales and review scores. That's what irritated me when I was playing Tales of Vesperia, it was a great game but what the hell was it doing on the XBOX 360? It's for that reason we will probably never see the huge amounts of extra content in the JAP PS3 version of the game on either console, Namco will just lose faith in Western audiences.

Um vesperia got low scores cause it was on 360/ i think not. and jrpgs sell pretty well on the 360 in comparison to the ps3 lost odyssey sold fine so did the last remnant and infinite undiscovery and according to vgchartz vesperia did 500k and there was an article a ways back were one of the developers said they would like to sell 500,000 copies.  You seem pretty loyal yourself to the ps3 saying those things about the 360.



ROBOTECHHEAVEN on 06 May 2011

will buy for sure, cant wait.  :)



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Cactus on 06 May 2011
dsister said:
Cactus said:

Namco's first priority is to circulate the PS3 version in the West. They haven't been happy with sales for quite some time, so it makes sense for them to narrow their focus and stick with the console that is guaranteed at least two successive Tales games. Releasing a Wii version that's missing 10 hours of content alongside the PS3 version that will be bought by PS3 owners and multi-console owners alike probably doesn't seem very lucrative.

Except that you fail to see that the PS3 iso can easily fit into a dual layer DVD 9. So that's just another example of Scamco's great business practices.

And how doesn't it seem attractive? If you are selling to two consoles then you reach 60 million potential buyers instead of the PS3s 19 million customer base. Plus most people don't care if a game is multiplatform or not, anyone that is talked out of a game because it isn't exclusive is an idiot 

So what if it fits? If Namco Japan are willing to do the extra development work to get the game equal on both platforms, that would mean something, but are they really going to waste time and resources adding extra features onto the Wii version just for American audiences who are already getting the fully featured PS3 version? That seems doubtful to me. Like someone else mentioned, releasing a game on two systems with one missing a big chunk of content doesn't seem like a likely scenario.

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing that it's a better choice to ignore the Wii version. Obviously the Wii has a large userbase and Namco would get some extra sales, even though anybody who is planning to buy the game and already owns both consoles would surely pick the version with the extra content. I'm just shedding some light on why I think they're ignoring it. Unlike past scenarios where they would pass on localization for what seemed like no good reason, I can actually see their logic in sticking to the PS3 version this time around, even if I don't agree with it personally.



lurkerwithnosoul on 06 May 2011

Now that we think about it, Namco is developing games for both systems. We have Naruto UNS2 as a multiplatform, Dragon Ball, Tekken 6, Soul Calibur 4, and the trend is not over since we'll get another SC for both systems, Dark Souls, Asura's Wrath, and more Dragon Ball.

So why don't this aply to the Tales franchise? Why do they need to fuck up everything with Tales? Why Tales dammit! Couldn't they fuck up with Dragon Ball instead? For example, leaving them on japan, and releasing them only on Ds. The hell i care about Dragon Ball anymore.

dsister summed up everything well. I agree 100% with him. This is just another one bad decision by Namco about Tales series, plain and simple.

And heck, it's not like brendude13 said. ToV is one of the best rated games on the XBL! At least where i live, it has 5 out of 5 stars and is always on the front page of the best rated xbox 360 games.



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enditall727 on 07 May 2011
lurkerwithnosoul said:

Now that we think about it, Namco is developing games for both systems. We have Naruto UNS2 as a multiplatform, Dragon Ball, Tekken 6, Soul Calibur 4, and the trend is not over since we'll get another SC for both systems, Dark Souls, Asura's Wrath, and more Dragon Ball.

So why don't this aply to the Tales franchise? Why do they need to fuck up everything with Tales? Why Tales dammit! Couldn't they fuck up with Dragon Ball instead? For example, leaving them on japan, and releasing them only on Ds. The hell i care about Dragon Ball anymore.

dsister summed up everything well. I agree 100% with him. This is just another one bad decision by Namco about Tales series, plain and simple.

And heck, it's not like brendude13 said. ToV is one of the best rated games on the XBL! At least where i live, it has 5 out of 5 stars and is always on the front page of the best rated xbox 360 games.


If you think about it, every Tale's game is exclusive (beside's each release being on PlayStation in japan) so i guess that's how they want it to be

Im just glad i can FINALLY play a Tale's game this gen on ps3. 360 owner's have vesperia and wii owner's have symphonia:dawn of the new world while there is STILL none to be found on ps3 this far in the generation.

I honestly didn't even care for Graces F at 1st but i decided that i would go on ahead and pick it up somewhere down the line 

but whatever though..



enditall727 on 07 May 2011
Soriku said:
Cactus said:

So what if it fits? If Namco Japan are willing to do the extra development work to get the game equal on both platforms, that would mean something, but are they really going to waste time and resources adding extra features onto the Wii version just for American audiences who are already getting the fully featured PS3 version? That seems doubtful to me. Like someone else mentioned, releasing a game on two systems with one missing a big chunk of content doesn't seem like a likely scenario.

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing that it's a better choice to ignore the Wii version. Obviously the Wii has a large userbase and Namco would get some extra sales, even though anybody who is planning to buy the game and already owns both consoles would surely pick the version with the extra content. I'm just shedding some light on why I think they're ignoring it. Unlike past scenarios where they would pass on localization for what seemed like no good reason, I can actually see their logic in sticking to the PS3 version this time around, even if I don't agree with it personally.


If they believe it's worth it for extra sales, they can get the JP team to do a port of the exta content (which is only around 10 hours worth of content. And most of Namco's games are multiplat anyway. Plus it wouldn't be the first time they added something new to Western releases...). We don't know what they're going to do yet - they completely removed the Features tab for whatever reason. So we'll have to wait to see what they do...but they're continuing to stay totally quiet about info and platform(s), again for whatever reason.


but they cant do that though. I thought sony made the developer make the extra content ONLY for the ps3 version

i thought whenever a game is made on a platform then the developer try's to bring it to the PS, sony wont let them do it. In order for sony to let them bring the game to PS they have to make extra content for the PS version of that specific game that wont be released on any other version

after Lost Planet and Oblivion that's what happened with Ninja gaiden 2,Bioshock,Overlord,Enchanted Arms,Eternal Sonata,Star Ocean 4,Tale's of Vesperia(Japan),Tale's of Graces(Japan) and a few other game's

 

and i was thinking when square wanted to bring Last Remnant to ps3 they got told the same thing and  were just to lazy to do the extra content and that's why Last Remnant never came to ps3

but idk..



oniyide on 07 May 2011

some people are living in a fantasy world, No way is Namco gonna take the extra time to add content to the Wii version and then translate it. It would be much easier for Namco to translate the original version and keep it moving, i doubt that they will do that. Unless they pull a SC/Tekken and release it on PS3 and 6-12 months then release on Wii



Mad55 on 07 May 2011
oniyide said:

some people are living in a fantasy world, No way is Namco gonna take the extra time to add content to the Wii version and then translate it. It would be much easier for Namco to translate the original version and keep it moving, i doubt that they will do that. Unless they pull a SC/Tekken and release it on PS3 and 6-12 months then release on Wii


Wut?



gumby_trucker on 08 May 2011
oniyide said:

some people are living in a fantasy world, No way is Namco gonna take the extra time to add content to the Wii version and then translate it. It would be much easier for Namco to translate the original version and keep it moving, i doubt that they will do that. Unless they pull a SC/Tekken and release it on PS3 and 6-12 months then release on Wii

I agree with you on the chances of a Wii port of Graces F, but from a technical side why would it be prohibitive?

According to others on this thread size isn't an issue as the whole game is 6.5 gigs on PS3. Voicework just needs to be copied over, and all the text as well since it's already translated on PS3. All that's left is graphics, and others here have said the game is still running on the same engine on PS3 as on Wii, so downsizing the textures/models/menus of the new content might be enough to get the whole thing up and running... worst case scenario some of the levels in the new content might be too big to fit in Wii's memory so they would need to cut them up or change them, but that's really the only problem I can anticipate.

If that is the case it sounds like a pretty standard job for any decent mod-team... just saying...



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