Welp, there goes the hope of any future Tales releases outside of Japan if true.

I'm curious.

Why would releasing this exclusively on the PS3 mean no more Tales games would release outside of Japan?

I disagree that big games like final fantasy are the only ones that sell enough to justify it's existence.  The Atelier Arland series is never going to get those kind of sales but it keeps Gust going and is selling more than enough to make a profit and therefore enough to justify its existence.  Selling little things like that help keep the genre what I love.  

Hey, what about Atlus? How many SMT did we saw at this point of PS2 life? A shitload of them. This gen, instead, we got a shitload over the DS and PSP. Wich is cool (not for the damn europeans, for sure), but not as it would be if any one of those Atlus RPGs were on the PS3 and Xbox 360.

But Gust is indeed a fighter. They have their own niche on the PS3, and they seem to get better game by game with the Atelier series. But NiS is the one to thanks, isn't it? If not for them, there wouldn't be any Atelier games over the US/EU markets.

And NiS, as we know, take alot of risk with that games, or at least, they do a very poor performance.

http://terminalgamer.com/2010/02/05/nippon-ichi-software-suffers-massive-operating-profit-drop/ (this is from 2010)

I'm not really sure what your point is with Atlus.  Are you saying that Atlus games on the HD consoles wouldn't sell enough to justify their existence?  I guess we'll see with Catherine.

On Atlier: NISA is to thank for bringing it here, but Gust didn't need them to make the sales they needed, Atelier Rorona had a sequel in the works before it was ever released out in the US.  NIS is doin' fine these days, no worries.  

Sales & Namco's incompetence.

did any of the ps2's Tale's of games even get advertised in the west though?

Wow i get a warning for saying people ill still buy late exclusive but you say 360 owners have no respect for jrpgs. Your pissed off because you think 360 owners have no respect for jrpgs well theres plenty of people that i know personally who have plenty of jrpgs on the 360 and plenty of people on this site who have jrpgs for the 360 will you say that they dont respect the game i mean they bought it. and what makes a console jrpg friendly? the 360 is less friendldy to jrpg's because it is an american console um no if that was the case it wouldnt have as many of them as it does. tales fans werent forced to do anything and they obviously have a bigger fan base than they do on sony consoles as vesperia is the best selling console tales in ameica besides symphonia.

Wow, you still don't understand the term "the majority" do you. By "the majority", I don't mean everybody, I mean "THE MAJORITY".

I have already given you my little rant about how the XBOX 360 has led to the degredation of JRPG's and Japanese developers losing faith in the West with bribed exclusivity deals and poor sales. The only reason that Microsoft had these games on their platform in the first place was through foul play, that is why I resent Microsoft, not because I'm a fanboy. You honestly don't think Namco thought "So what system will we release this Japanese RPG on? ...I know! How about the console which has sold next to no units in Japan, and doesn't have a single Japanese developed game in its top 10 most selling games." Microsoft were playing their usual game, they must be better than everyone else so they will pay everyone off until they succeed.

Those Tales of Vesperia sales were forced, there was outrage in Japan when ToV was released on PS3, simply because that is the game that people bought the system for. I like to blame Namco Bandai for being sell-outs, but Microsoft shouldn't have been waving money under Namco's nose in the first place. It is the perfect way to piss of the Tales fanbase who expected it to be released on the console with more of a Japanese following.

The point I am trying to get across is that the XBOX 360 is no place for JRPG's. You may think I am being fanboyish or just stereotyping the majority of XBOX 360 owners, but if you wave Tales of Graces F under the typical XBOX 360 owners nose, his response would be "dat is gay, why would I wanna play dat?". Sadly, because of the exclusive deal that happened with Tales of Vesperia, there is a small yet very annoying circle of JRPG and XBOX 360 fanboys who are reluctant to buy a PS3 but they cry everytime a JRPG is exclusive to PS3 or even goes multiplatform. PS3 fanboys don't cry because they don't have Gears of War, because that game doesn't appeal to the PS3 fanbase, in the same way Tales of Graces won't appeal to the XBOX 360 fanbase.

I can assure you that Tales of Vesperia (XBOX 360 version) is NOT one of the best selling Tales games, VGChartz numbers seem to be going funky recently, but I believe Abyss and Symphonia have a huge lead over Tales of Vesperia, hell even Tales of Vesperia on the PS3 version (released well after the XBOX 360 version and only in Japan) is very close in sales, god knows what the Western sales would be like with a little bit of extra advertising.

I'll do a little summary for you, so you can see why I am so opposed to this.

• Tales of Vesperia was only on the XBOX 360 because of a paid exclusivity deal.
• Tales of Vesperia's low sales on the XBOX 360 has made Namco Bandai lose faith in Western audiences.
• This results in content and even whole games not being localised, ruining the fun for everyone.
• The only reason a Tales fanbase exists on the XBOX 360 was through forced sales (like me).
• This fanbase is still not big enough to justify another Tales game being on the XBOX 360.
• I believe that Tales of Graces should be on the Wii and even the handhelds before it is on the XBOX 360.
• PS3 and Wii versions of the game already exist in Japan, not on the XBOX 360.
• The extra time and money put into the XBOX 360 version of the game would never pay off.