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Forums - Gaming - Does PSN problem = Red Ring of death.. in losses for Sony??

Seihyouken said:
Darth Tigris said:

Overall risk to consumers is FAR greater for this than RRoD.  Possibly replacing a sub-$400 console vs having your identity possibly stolen shouldn't even be a discussion.

Seriously, its a shame how even something like this turns into a fanboy war here.  The weight of this shouldn't be anymore minimized NOW than the weight of RRoD back then.  Both are horrible and neither paints the respective companies in a good light.  Most importantly, both affect customers in a bad way.  

So don't be offended if people jump all over this incident.  It's well deserved.

Well when people such as yourself go around blowing things out of proportion suggesting that it's possible identity theft could be a direct result of the intrusion it's no surprise that people freak out. A name, address, and telephone number don't make an identity. That's facebook biography crap. The only danger people are of having their identities stolen are if they are phished through their mail/phone and tricked into supplying their entire social security number. Needless to say anybody stupid enough to fall for that has no right holding Sony liable. The much more real worry, though equally unlikely problem, is credit card fraud. There's nothing to suggest that the encrypted credit card and debit card numbers supplied to Sony had been compromised though Sony can't certain for certain that they hadn't. Basically there is a 50% chance that not a single person's credit card number was stolen and based on the fact that there don't appear to be a string of reports suggesting that they were, I'm betting they weren't compromised.
But just for argument's sake let's say that credit card information was leaked. I'm not sure about other countries but in America people are protected against fraud on their credit cards and for 30 days after recieving their financial report on debit cards. So even in the unlikely worse case scenerio, it would take a grossly neglegent person to even stand to lose any actual money.

It's crazy how people are making a mountain out of a anthill. Comparing this to the losses Microsoft incurred from the RRoD defect is also silly. That problem cost Microsoft over a billion dollars. Even with the lost revenue from the week without PSN, this situation almost certainly won't cost Sony even a tenth of that.

where the hell is that dude clapping gif with the serious face???

especially that first sentence, only people jumping all over this is haters looking to spread FUD to freak people out against Sony

Sony: as we further investigate, we've found no evidence at all of any info being obtained, but as a precautionary measure we ask that you monitor your info just to be safe

Internet: Hackers have STOLEN all of your info and credit card numbers and destroyed psn, pray and hope you don't run up your debt.

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It wasn't Sonys fault they got hacked, but they could have handeled the situasjon a lot better. RRoD was MS fault, and i dont think they handeled that well either. But in the end the consequenses of the PSN-problem might be really bad if identity theft starts happening



This is NOTHING compared to RROD...how is Sony losing $ in this situation?



yes,it's going to cost sony money and some bad PR,no matter how you look at it. 



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MS repairs you console for free gor 3 years you don't even pay shipping, no need to buy another xbox, i have both



                          

xS7SxSNIPER said:

MS repairs you console for free gor 3 years you don't even pay shipping, no need to buy another xbox, i have both

Not for all.



 This thread seems to have potential to turn into a raging fanboy war.

It seems to be starting already.



psrock said:
Nsanity said:
osamanobama said:
Nsanity said:
kingofwale said:
Lyrikalstylez said:

Seems like this little malfunction is gonna cost Sony alot of money to fix, not to mention the lawsuites and bad publicity PSN is recieving. I hate to say it but this Reminds me of the red ring of death for 360.....How much did Ms lose because of that little disaster?

 

TOUGH LUCK SONY, HOPE YOU GET BACK ON YOUR FEET


would you consider leading console sales ytd as something that requires "get back on your feet'?

 

if that's the case, what is Wii and xbox doing right now? crawling?

 

 

PSN is free, now if I had paid fees to access it like the xbox outage during Christmas, i would be mad. However, how mad can you be for something that is giving free??

PS3 aint exactly leading by mile now is it?

what is with you, and your insecurities to the current console sales?

every time people even allude to sales and Sony's current success, you go on defense mode 

Everytime i open my mouth you and 10 other of your other buddies try to gang on me so back off.

You are being picked on because you start things you can't finish. 

"PS3 aint exactly leading by mile now is it?" was really not needed though, but you felt you had to say something. But people read and see your intentions, thus you become a target. 

You are not the protector of MS, you don't have to defend everything, learn to take the positive with the negative, your blood pressure wont be moving around so much. 


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Kingofwale comment wasn't needed .......unless you believe that talking about sales is relevent in a thread about the security breach.

If you are going to call out someone , the least you could do is call out the right person.



N64 is the ONLY console of the fifth generation!!!

I'm going to say "yes".  I was reading a paper this morning and it said this could potentially (key word, there) cost Sony upwards of a billion dollars.  I don't have the newspaper with me but I'll grab it in about two hours and post what it sais, later.  Keep in mind that most of the time, mainstream media doesn't present an accurate picture.

Still, just like how people avoided the 360 due to the RRoD, imagine people's perceptions of this debacle. The RRoD was well known amongst gamers.  This PSN issue is being discussed among mainstream media.  Add to that the lost revenue from PSN games, rentals, etc. and there is something to be worried about.  And this is actually all without any evidence of credit card theft.

This COULD be very bad.....