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PS3 sales 71% those of PS2 in the same lifespan

PS3 sales will stop at 70-80 million 59 22.43%
 
PS3 sales will stop at 80-90 million 52 19.77%
 
PS3 sales will stop at 90-100 million 52 19.77%
 
PS3 sales will stop at 100-110 million 38 14.45%
 
PS3 sales will stop at 110-120 million 34 12.93%
 
View results/None of the above 28 10.65%
 
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Dr.Grass on 25 April 2011
Torillian said:
Troll_Whisperer said:

The PS3 has sold 49,519,608 since its launch in November 2006.

Since the PS2 was launched on the 27/02/2000 week (that's 02/27/2000 for you Americans) until the week ending 31/07/2004, that is in the same amount of weeks, the PS2 sold 69,924,823.

Meaning the PS3 has sold 70.82% what the PS2 sold in the same time frame.

 

I will give you some more data. During the next year PS2 sold about 18m more. It seems that the PS3 will sell at least 15m for the next year if it gets a pricecut, meaning the percentage may increase to 74% or more during the next year. This is speculation though.

Let's assume the PS2 sales stop at 160m. 70.82% of that would be 113m consoles. Can PS3 achieve that? That would put it above the PSX.

I would add data for the PSX if I could find it anywhere, so can help in this regard, let me know.

 

My personal opinion: I was surprised to see the PS3 is doing this well compared to the PS2. I thought  the PS2 was more frontloaded than it actually was, but now I see it sold almost half of its lifetime sales after the current generation ended. I don't see the PS3 pulling that off, even if the PS4 and X720 come in 2014. For the next couple of years, PS3 may reach 75% of PS2 sales, but after that it should fall much quicker. For that reason I think that PS3 sales will stop selling at about 90 million.


I'm impressed at the concluding paragraph, that's exactly what I'm thinking about how it won't hold on to its sales as well as the PS2, though I haven't thought it out enough to figure out the number I think it'll get to.

interesting thread regardless, thanks for the effort.

LOL me too :)



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Nik24 on 25 April 2011
Boutros said:

The PS2 dropped to 200$ 2 years after it's release. The PS3 is still 300$ 4.5 years since it's release. Comparing both can't be very conclusive considering that.


It might help to take inflation into account...



Boutros on 25 April 2011
Nik24 said:
Boutros said:

The PS2 dropped to 200$ 2 years after it's release. The PS3 is still 300$ 4.5 years since it's release. Comparing both can't be very conclusive considering that.


It might help to take inflation into account...

The price of softwares was 60$ back then as well. How do you explain that?!



Tridrakious on 25 April 2011
Boutros said:

The PS2 dropped to 200$ 2 years after it's release. The PS3 is still 300$ 4.5 years since it's release. Comparing both can't be very conclusive considering that.


It's amazing when those prices get put in place.

The PS3 launched $300 more than the PS2 did and has done 71% of the PS2's sales even before the price becomes comparable.



arcane_chaos on 25 April 2011

wow...that's some interesting information,I think the PS3 can crawl its way to 100mil,



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enrageorange on 25 April 2011

its impossible to assume much. While the playstation 3 will be the console of choice for developing countries once its price gets lowered to ps2 type prices, western countries will be a different story. PS2 was the console of choice for all people from the United States, Europe, and Japan on a budget. It was the completly dominant console period.  This generation it will have to compete with the wii in Europe and Japan, and will pretty much has no chance against the xbox 360 and Wii in the United States if trends continue.

The price factor is also pretty silly. The mass market price is different for every product. I'll make a pretty simple comparision. A laptop has a much higher mass market price than a netbook because of the technology inside of it. 

Its not like sony is making massive profits on ps3 sales. They are selling it for around what it costs them to make it. A playstation 3 now is more advanced tech then the ps2 was 4.5 years after its launch. Its mass market price is higher because it has more value. 

It will easily surprass 80mil. Anymore depends on how much support it ends up recieving from third parties once next generation begins. The ps2 has been alive for the past 5 years because of the amazing third party support it continues to receive, not because sony themselves are still actively promoting the console.



TheSource on 25 April 2011

That's not really true - I ran this same comparison a couple weeks ago.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3925287

If you go by even weeks in each region you get this (for those that don't want to read the whole post) :

PS3 is 40% of the PS2 pace in Japan in 2006-2010, 58% of the PS2 pace in the USA in 2006-2010, and 70% of the PS2 pace in Europe in 2007-2010.

This is the full comparison and explainer for comparing systems easily without hw graphs:

- PS2 "year one" counts as March 2000 in Japan not March 2000 - Dec 2000 to make comparing to Wii / PS3 / X360 more even.

- I only looked at the USA, Japan, and Western Europe

- Data is for Launch Window to 5th Christmas (4th Christmas for PS3 in Europe)

Wii is almost two years ahead of PS2 in the USA, less than a year ahead in Western Europe (and it may fall behind the PS2 pace in Europe this year), and way behind in Japan.

X360 is closing in on the PS2 pace in the USA, way off the PS2 in Europe and a joke compared to PS2 in Japan.

PS3 is way off the PS2 pace in the USA and Japan but fairly close to PS2 in Western Europe.

 

W. Europe
Wii 0 0.68 4.97 8.55 6.87 5.86
PS2 0 0.68 5.05 6.41 7.00 6.10 8.19
PS3 0 3.29 3.86 4.41 5.24
X360 0 0.41 1.77 1.97 3.85 3.35 4.13
Prelaunch Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5 Year 6

Western Europe:

                  Year 1-4        Year 1-5

Wii               21.07m          26.93m

PS3*            16.80m         (year five is 2011)

PS2               19.15m          25.24m

X360            8.00                 11.35m

* Year one for PS3 is March 25 to Dec 2007, Year One for PS2 / Wii / X360 is one to three months. PS3 is thus at 70% of the PS2 pace in years one to four on a weekly or monthly basis.

 

JP Normalized PS2 Yr 1 Yr 2 Yr 3 Yr 4 Yr 5 Yr 1-5
PS2 1.16 2.99 4.28 3.77 3.21 15.40
Wii 0.96 3.68 3.02 2.02 1.66 11.34
PS3 0.47 1.22 1.07 1.83 1.55 6.14

Year one is adjusted to be one month for all three systems.

USA Years 1-5:

Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5
Wii 1.08 6.29 10.16 9.59 7.07
PS2 1.10 6.17 8.39 6.31 4.68
X360 0.61 3.91 4.62 4.74 4.77
PS3 0.69 2.56 3.54 4.32 4.33

Wii USA = 34.18m

PS2 USA = 26.65m (32.16m in 2000-2005)

X360 USA = 18.65m (25.41m in 2005-2010)

PS3 USA = 15.44m

Wii is 20 months ahead of the PS2 pace in the USA, about six months ahead of PS2 in Europe, and 3m / 1-2 years behind in Japan. X360 is 10% of the PS2 pace in Japan in years 1-5, less than half in Western Europe, and 75-80% of the PS2 in the USA. PS3 is 40% of the PS2 pace in Japan, 58% of the PS2 pace in the USA, and 70% of the PS2 pace in Europe.



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imaprettyhotguy on 26 April 2011

Depends how serious Sony is about supporting it for 10 years and how strong they've grown in 2ed/3rd world markets, there is still a chance the ps4 won't even launch until 2016 (outside chance) and ps3 has been outselling itself every year and has remained pretty pricey for it's age, so it just depends what moves Sony makes 



libellule on 26 April 2011
CGI-Quality said:

Way I see it; PS3 will probably cap off at or around 95-100mill, be 2nd or 3rd place (possibly 2nd if the next price cut has a devastating effect on the market), and be remembered as the last place console that broke more records than some market leaders. Not the best story for a PlayStation, but one with key triumphs in a hard fought generation while trailing the rest.

I just think Nintendo is playing their cards right at this moment. They'll push many people to pick up one of their newer consoles instead of a PS3 (or 360 for that matter). Could be wrong, and Sony will probably support the system through 2016, but I think that new Nintendo console will make a bigger impression on the market than we currently understand.

kinect and the way MS use it

vs

new ninty controller and what innovation it brings

that the big parameters according to me



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justinian on 26 April 2011

Good read but two things stand out that differs now for the PS2 era.

1) As Boutros said the cost of the PS3 system is much more than the PS2 at the same time in their respective lifespans. Inflation might indeed play a part but that will need further investigation.

2) Whats is even more important IMO is that the PS2 didn't have the strong competition that the PS3 does now. Competing with a soon to be dead Dreamcast, a weak Gamecube and a newcomer in the xbox is no where near the same as a market leading wii and a strong x360.

The x360 can take sales away from the PS3 far more effectively than the gamecube and xbox ever could against the PS2.

Yet I still think your figure of around 90m is spot on.