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zgamer5 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:

wow what a useless example.

I see no difference between the two examples >_>

he used god of war.

im talking about 3rd party wii games and specifically non fitness/dance/party games.

what do average sales for god of war have to do with the wii, its not like all 1st party sony games had those sales. and its not like al 3rd party games also had those sales.

Games on a 140 million userbase don't necessarily sell 10m each - Games on a 86 million userbase don't necessarily sell 6mil each - - - - How are the examples different?


where do i talk about 6 million sales for 3rd party wii games.

i dont, his god of war comment was useless because it didnt represent the sales of 3rd party or 1st party ps2 games.

dude, try to keep up will ya

...I meant a huge userbase doesn't necessarily mean huge game sales (6mil was just an example). You said the sales in the OP were "terrible". When asked why, you answer: because considering the 86 million userbase, a few million copies is "terrible"

Question: Do you think God of War's sales are "terrible" (considering it's on a 140mil base)?
Hint: Both GoW and the games in the OP sold similar numbers relative to their userbase (GoW acutally sold relatively less)



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miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:

wow what a useless example.

I see no difference between the two examples >_>

he used god of war.

im talking about 3rd party wii games and specifically non fitness/dance/party games.

what do average sales for god of war have to do with the wii, its not like all 1st party sony games had those sales. and its not like al 3rd party games also had those sales.

Games on a 140 million userbase don't necessarily sell 10m each - Games on a 86 million userbase don't necessarily sell 6mil each - - - - How are the examples different?


where do i talk about 6 million sales for 3rd party wii games.

i dont, his god of war comment was useless because it didnt represent the sales of 3rd party or 1st party ps2 games.

dude, try to keep up will ya

...I meant a huge userbase doesn't necessarily mean huge game sales (6mil was just an example). You said the sales in the OP were "terrible". When asked why, you answer: because considering the 86 million userbase, a few million copies is "terrible"

Question: Do you think God of War's sales are "terrible" (considering it's on a 140mil base)?
Hint: Both GoW and the games in the OP sold similar numbers relative to their userbase (GoW acutally sold relatively less)


i was talking about the sales of 3rd party games for the wii wich are non dance/fitness/party/platformer.

that meaans sales ranging from 200k till 1.5 million(or something like that) that is terrible. 

now when it comes to god of war that is one game(or franchise) im talking about multiple games. theirs a diffrence. i said 3rd party game sales are terrible on the wii and i used userbase to say why. when it come to the ps2 not all 3rd party games sold from 3 million to 4 million, hence the god of war reference is useless.

i find god of war's sales to be average, but again comparing the wii and the ps2 is very hard because the ps2 sold what 30-50 million after ps3? and that caused no software changes except to the anaul sport franchises and to games such as san andreas.



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zgamer5 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:

wow what a useless example.

I see no difference between the two examples >_>

he used god of war.

im talking about 3rd party wii games and specifically non fitness/dance/party games.

what do average sales for god of war have to do with the wii, its not like all 1st party sony games had those sales. and its not like al 3rd party games also had those sales.

Games on a 140 million userbase don't necessarily sell 10m each - Games on a 86 million userbase don't necessarily sell 6mil each - - - - How are the examples different?


where do i talk about 6 million sales for 3rd party wii games.

i dont, his god of war comment was useless because it didnt represent the sales of 3rd party or 1st party ps2 games.

dude, try to keep up will ya

...I meant a huge userbase doesn't necessarily mean huge game sales (6mil was just an example). You said the sales in the OP were "terrible". When asked why, you answer: because considering the 86 million userbase, a few million copies is "terrible"

Question: Do you think God of War's sales are "terrible" (considering it's on a 140mil base)?
Hint: Both GoW and the games in the OP sold similar numbers relative to their userbase (GoW acutally sold relatively less)


i was talking about the sales of 3rd party games for the wii wich are non dance/fitness/party/platformer.

that meaans sales ranging from 200k till 1.5 million(or something like that) that is terrible. 

now when it comes to god of war that is one game(or franchise) im talking about multiple games. theirs a diffrence. i said 3rd party game sales are terrible on the wii and i used userbase to say why. when it come to the ps2 not all 3rd party games sold from 3 million to 4 million, hence the god of war reference is useless.

i find god of war's sales to be average, but again comparing the wii and the ps2 is very hard because the ps2 sold what 30-50 million after ps3? and that caused no software changes except to the anaul sport franchises and to games such as san andreas.

God of War was just an example out of many, stop dwelling on it so much.

PS2 had many non -dance/fitness/party/platformer games which sold terribly despite a large userbase. So the same thing you say for Wii applies to it as well.

No excuses.



zgamer5 said:
RolStoppable said:
zgamer5 said:
RolStoppable said:

Whoa, you extended the topic first. How can Wii third party games sales be good and terrible at the same time? By looking at it on its own merits and then comparing those sales to those of other consoles. My analogy wasn't exactly flawless, but not everything can work perfectly.

i said that compared to what it usually does its good.

but if your not looking at it that way then its terrible.

And what way of looking at it makes it terrible?

86 million userbase.

I have yet to see how userbase changes how a game sells.



Above: still the best game of the year.

zgamer5 said:

i was talking about the sales of 3rd party games for the wii wich are non dance/fitness/party/platformer.

that meaans sales ranging from 200k till 1.5 million(or something like that) that is terrible.

now when it comes to god of war that is one game(or franchise) im talking about multiple games. theirs a diffrence. i said 3rd party game sales are terrible on the wii and i used userbase to say why. when it come to the ps2 not all 3rd party games sold from 3 million to 4 million, hence the god of war reference is useless.

i find god of war's sales to be average, but again comparing the wii and the ps2 is very hard because the ps2 sold what 30-50 million after ps3? and that caused no software changes except to the anaul sport franchises and to games such as san andreas.

I can't take you seriously given the things you're saying...

1) You include/ignore whichever genres you like when you argue (my main issue with your posts)
2) You are essentailly saying that selling around a million copies is "terrible"
3) You prove yourself wrong in you own post "not all 3rd party games sold from 3 million to 4 million" - Not every game will sell that amount on Wii either, buddy. The fact that a lot of games do make it past that point is impressive



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I see now who is playing games. Congratulations zgamer5, you have bring again the old debate about sales of 3rd partys on WIi and the brilliant userbase comparision.

But if your next step is using the Wii is collecting dust bored argument you should stop now. Try harder next time.



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Play4Fun said:
zgamer5 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:

wow what a useless example.

I see no difference between the two examples >_>

he used god of war.

im talking about 3rd party wii games and specifically non fitness/dance/party games.

what do average sales for god of war have to do with the wii, its not like all 1st party sony games had those sales. and its not like al 3rd party games also had those sales.

Games on a 140 million userbase don't necessarily sell 10m each - Games on a 86 million userbase don't necessarily sell 6mil each - - - - How are the examples different?


where do i talk about 6 million sales for 3rd party wii games.

i dont, his god of war comment was useless because it didnt represent the sales of 3rd party or 1st party ps2 games.

dude, try to keep up will ya

...I meant a huge userbase doesn't necessarily mean huge game sales (6mil was just an example). You said the sales in the OP were "terrible". When asked why, you answer: because considering the 86 million userbase, a few million copies is "terrible"

Question: Do you think God of War's sales are "terrible" (considering it's on a 140mil base)?
Hint: Both GoW and the games in the OP sold similar numbers relative to their userbase (GoW acutally sold relatively less)


i was talking about the sales of 3rd party games for the wii wich are non dance/fitness/party/platformer.

that meaans sales ranging from 200k till 1.5 million(or something like that) that is terrible. 

now when it comes to god of war that is one game(or franchise) im talking about multiple games. theirs a diffrence. i said 3rd party game sales are terrible on the wii and i used userbase to say why. when it come to the ps2 not all 3rd party games sold from 3 million to 4 million, hence the god of war reference is useless.

i find god of war's sales to be average, but again comparing the wii and the ps2 is very hard because the ps2 sold what 30-50 million after ps3? and that caused no software changes except to the anaul sport franchises and to games such as san andreas.

God of War was just an example out of many, stop dwelling on it so much.

PS2 had many non -dance/fitness/party/platformer games which sold terribly despite a large userbase. So the same thing you say for Wii applies to it as well.

No excuses.


yes but not all of them sold terribly.



Being in 3rd place never felt so good

miz1q2w3e said:
zgamer5 said:

i was talking about the sales of 3rd party games for the wii wich are non dance/fitness/party/platformer.

that meaans sales ranging from 200k till 1.5 million(or something like that) that is terrible.

now when it comes to god of war that is one game(or franchise) im talking about multiple games. theirs a diffrence. i said 3rd party game sales are terrible on the wii and i used userbase to say why. when it come to the ps2 not all 3rd party games sold from 3 million to 4 million, hence the god of war reference is useless.

i find god of war's sales to be average, but again comparing the wii and the ps2 is very hard because the ps2 sold what 30-50 million after ps3? and that caused no software changes except to the anaul sport franchises and to games such as san andreas.

I can't take you seriously given the things you're saying...

1) You include/ignore whichever genres you like when you argue (my main issue with your posts)
2) You are essentailly saying that selling around a million copies is "terrible"
3) You prove yourself wrong in you own post "not all 3rd party games sold from 3 million to 4 million" - Not every game will sell that amount on Wii either, buddy. The fact that a lot of games do make it past that point is impressive


-1- my original post excluded dance/fitness/platformers/party games.

-2- im saying that since all wii 3rd party games in those particular genres sell within a range of 200k to 1.5 million then thats terrible.

-3- wow you fail again to percieve my point. i never expected wii games to sell that much. im going back to god of war. not all 3rd party or 1st party games sold 3 to 4 million on the ps2(god of wars's sales)  hence his god of war arguement is useless because i was talking about all 3rd party wii games in a certain genre and how they sell in within a certain range.



Being in 3rd place never felt so good

Pavolink said:

I see now who is playing games. Congratulations zgamer5, you have bring again the old debate about sales of 3rd partys on WIi and the brilliant userbase comparision.

But if your next step is using the Wii is collecting dust bored argument you should stop now. Try harder next time.


i brought that up after rol brought something else up.

at first i said that theyr good sales compared to what the wii does. but at the end of the day theyr terrible.

and when it comes to being impressive i stated that reflex sold more then a million so that would make the expectations for bo and golden eye to be a million(give or take).



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Gojimaster said:
RolStoppable said:
Gojimaster said:
RolStoppable said:

Ha, you still hold on to the belief of 3DS/Wii multiplatform development.

Why not?  There already been a few Wii/3DS multiplatforms announced.

When and what?

These are the 3 that I know about so far.  I guarantee you that a bunch more will get announced at E3. 

Tenkuu no Kishi Rodea (Sky Knight Rodea)

Centipede: Infestation

Mario & Sonic at the London games


And Sponge Bob Squiggle Pants is already out on both.



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