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Immortal said:

Do you really think of your parents that lowly? In my experience, which isn't much to go on, admittedly, most seem to really underestimate their parents. You shouldn't necessarily assume that your parents are simple-minded just because they've got some beliefs indoctrinated into them that they don't question (even you do - your brain couldn't function without some assumptions to go on, I suspect), though, obviously, you know them far better. I really suggest you tell them plainly and respectfully that you don't believe in Christianity and haven't for a while and see how they take it.

I've never been in a similar situation, though. While I'm not even sure enough of what my beliefs are to question them, my parents are very open-minded about everything and would be very eager to discuss such subjects if I wanted to become an atheist.

You're actully very right when you say that we all have certain beliefs that we don't question, and on which we base our further observations, but that's something to discuss another time.

While I'm glad you have parents with whom you can actually discuss things like these, without them causing a scandal, I sadly can't say the same about my own parents (and I base this on an experience I had with them 2 years ago, so I'd say I'd be overestimating them if I expected them to be understanding and not the other way around).



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Farmageddon said:
pizzahut451 said:
Farmageddon said:

Nah, some may be like that but - just as religious people - the full range of fanaticism is represented, from very open to anal. I find most atheists' minds are more open than that. I mean, ok, maybe they're sure there's no God, but they're a lot less prejudicial of people who think otherwise (yea, depending on how far these people go), and that was the point.


Well, I cant generalize all atheist people but from my limited expeirence they are dangerously more agressive when it comes to thier beliefs.


Well, from my experience your experience isn't the norm :P

Either I've had good luck or you've had bad. Anyway in bith the atheist and religious camps the most annoying and vocal members are the ones who make the more resonable ones a name.

He may have simply provoked or attacked them, which casue them to behave negativelly towards him. I wouldn't be surprised, knowing him.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

dsage01 said:
sapphi_snake said:
dsage01 said:

Okay well I'm a christian as well and I think if you don't want to belive in any sort of god it's absoltley fine. Everyone has there own opinon if I wanted to be an atheinst my parents might argue with me for a bit but at the end of the day it really doesn't matter. If your parents love you and you love your parents that's the thing that matters most. Just go on and tell your parents the same way you told us. Belive me you'll feel like you lost 100 pounds once you told them the truth. So go on and tell your parents the truth.

Wow it's nice to see a Christian who's actually nice and trying to be helpful, unlike some other people  who posted on here trying to insult atheists (they know who they are). Thank you!


No problem helping I udnerstand other people's feelings!

Great. You're awsome. More people should be like you.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
Immortal said:

Do you really think of your parents that lowly? In my experience, which isn't much to go on, admittedly, most seem to really underestimate their parents. You shouldn't necessarily assume that your parents are simple-minded just because they've got some beliefs indoctrinated into them that they don't question (even you do - your brain couldn't function without some assumptions to go on, I suspect), though, obviously, you know them far better. I really suggest you tell them plainly and respectfully that you don't believe in Christianity and haven't for a while and see how they take it.

I've never been in a similar situation, though. While I'm not even sure enough of what my beliefs are to question them, my parents are very open-minded about everything and would be very eager to discuss such subjects if I wanted to become an atheist.

You're actully very right when you say that we all have certain beliefs that we don't question, and on which we base our further observations, but that's something to discuss another time.

While I'm glad you have parents with whom you can actually discuss things like these, without them causing a scandal, I sadly can't say the same about my own parents (and I base this on an experience I had with them 2 years ago, so I'd say I'd be overestimating them if I expected them to be understanding and not the other way around).


Fair enough, then. You seem to have reason to believe that they won't understand you. I guess faking your own murder is the only remaining option then, :P.



 

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Immortal said:
sapphi_snake said:
Immortal said:

Do you really think of your parents that lowly? In my experience, which isn't much to go on, admittedly, most seem to really underestimate their parents. You shouldn't necessarily assume that your parents are simple-minded just because they've got some beliefs indoctrinated into them that they don't question (even you do - your brain couldn't function without some assumptions to go on, I suspect), though, obviously, you know them far better. I really suggest you tell them plainly and respectfully that you don't believe in Christianity and haven't for a while and see how they take it.

I've never been in a similar situation, though. While I'm not even sure enough of what my beliefs are to question them, my parents are very open-minded about everything and would be very eager to discuss such subjects if I wanted to become an atheist.

You're actully very right when you say that we all have certain beliefs that we don't question, and on which we base our further observations, but that's something to discuss another time.

While I'm glad you have parents with whom you can actually discuss things like these, without them causing a scandal, I sadly can't say the same about my own parents (and I base this on an experience I had with them 2 years ago, so I'd say I'd be overestimating them if I expected them to be understanding and not the other way around).


Fair enough, then. You seem to have reason to believe that they won't understand you. I guess faking your own murder is the only remaining option then, :P.

Oh come on. It hasn't come to that... YET.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

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UPDATE: Today I heard a conversation my parents had about a protestant family that lives in my building, after my little sister played with their child. After hearing what they said about them, I'm now sure there's absolutely no way they'd be OK with me being an atheist, so telling them is just a bad ideea right now. Guess my charade must continue...



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:

UPDATE: Today I heard a conversation my parents had about a protestant family that lives in my building, after my little sister played with their child. After hearing what they said about them, I'm now sure there's absolutely no way they'd be OK with me being an atheist, so telling them is just a bad ideea right now. Guess my charade must continue...


It seems to me like if you want to know the best answer, you just need to weight the two options based on their merits.

Option A you don't tell them and continuously have stress for as long as you live with them / talk to them. It seems like you are uncomfortable in this position.

Option B you tell them and have a miserable short term and a more comfortable long term.

If I was you, and I am glad I ain't, I would tell them.



 

 

sapphi_snake said:

UPDATE: Today I heard a conversation my parents had about a protestant family that lives in my building, after my little sister played with their child. After hearing what they said about them, I'm now sure there's absolutely no way they'd be OK with me being an atheist, so telling them is just a bad ideea right now. Guess my charade must continue...


I have a question are you mixed religons? Because I am half sikh and half christian and my parents aren't really that strict about religons. Sure when I was younger like around 12-14 my parents  made me to go to the church really often but now that I'm older they don't force me to do stuff anymore. Well I don't know how old you are but I'm 17 and my parents know that if they try to limit me or make me do stuff that I feel hesitant about doing I'll just drift apart. If I tell my parents I wanted to be an athesit they would argue with me and say that I shouldn't give up my religon or I'm just mad cause of something but after a while if I keep saying I wanted to be atheist and giving them tons of reasons they would let me do what I feel is right. We all know that there is the emotinal blackmail parents give but you should do what you want to do or what you think feels right. You may make your parents happy by praying everyday but does that make you happy. Surely one day your parents might find out that you want to be an atheist what will you do then? What will you do if they ask you why didn't you tell us that you don't believe in any sort of religon? Your parents will always support you the most if not then try tell your teacher or proffeseur maybe even a close friend that  you can trust and you both can go and convince your parents. If your really scared that they will be mad about you telling them that your an atheist think about what happens if you hide it from them. They will fell rejected and vent out more anger on you. So I think it's best for you to tell them now before it's too late.



Copied from a website I found:

First, the Bible teaches that people should not judge. This is often a difficult guideline for people to follow. Judging people is commonplace, and people often forget it is against the teachings in the Bible. Because of that, people judge for a variety of reasons. Most often, they judge people for being different. However, the Bible cautions against this kind of behavior.

The Bible also says to accept everyone. It is not the job of humans to decide who is right and who is wrong. Instead, people are supposed to be accepting. They are supposed to live their own life the way it is supposed to be lived and accept the decisions others make fully and completely.

When people are able to live their lives without judgment and with acceptance, they are then able to love. Love is what the Bible is about, but that sometimes gets lost. When someone truly follows the Bible, they love everyone without stipulations. They do not put conditions on their love. They do not make people share their ideals in order to love them. Instead they love everyone, just as Jesus did in the Bible. They do not try to change them. They simply love them for who they are.

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If they are truly religious people (which with what you have said, they seem to act in a way where they believe they are religious), then while they may get upset at you for a while, they will not let it carry forward and continue to judge you based on this, that would be God's job, not theirs.

I truly do think that you should tell them, because hiding something like this from your parents for your whole life (if you can't tell them now, you will have just as much or more trouble telling them later) just isn't right.



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im_sneaky said:
sapphi_snake said:

UPDATE: Today I heard a conversation my parents had about a protestant family that lives in my building, after my little sister played with their child. After hearing what they said about them, I'm now sure there's absolutely no way they'd be OK with me being an atheist, so telling them is just a bad ideea right now. Guess my charade must continue...


It seems to me like if you want to know the best answer, you just need to weight the two options based on their merits.

Option A you don't tell them and continuously have stress for as long as you live with them / talk to them. It seems like you are uncomfortable in this position.

Option B you tell them and have a miserable short term and a more comfortable long term.

If I was you, and I am glad I ain't, I would tell them.

I they never will get over it if I do tell them, so it would be better to wait 'till I moved out. Yes, you should be glad you're not in my shoes.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)