^^^CDi came out in like 1991!  3DO in about 1993!  And even if they didn't what about the Sega CD and 32X add ons?  You could even say the Genesis was stronger AND weaker at the same time.  I can't believe I'm out here on the roof again!

I must refrsin from looking at VGChartz with the Opera browser on my phone.  I want to post and I can't (normal browser doesn't load without a 3G connection).

*logs off*

So price is the issue not the graphics;..And that is what hurted the Neo Geo's sales, and that is what Sony fans saying whole the generation...If price goes down sales of PS3 will go up;. How many weeks now is the PS3 above the Wii/X360 sales?

The CD-i is considered to be in the fourth generation (SNES, Genesis, etc). 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-i

The 3DO and Jaguar are in the 5th generation (as you stated).  However, they did come out towards the end of the fourth generation.  They launched the 5th generation.  3DO, Amiga CD32, and the Jaguar came out about a year before the PS1 was launched.  At the time they were probably among the most powerful machines.  3DO failed probably because it was ridiculously overpriced.  You can omit systems if you want (Neo Geo) to try and prove my point wrong.  However, I am including all systems by the generations as they are listed in.

IMO, this is a bit of a grey area.

I do agree with CGI that Neo-Geo was priced and situated out of the realm of the competition, in that there was no hope for it to compete succesfully...

However living in the US, I used to see Neo-Geo all the time at Babbage's (where I always bought my games), and in EGM every month; those places treated it just like one of the systems on the market (in fact, it actually launched before the SNES), so I personally have always proclaimed what the OP is saying as well.

Yea, just imagine if Sony was able to launch the PS3 at $299 or $350 price.  They couldn't because they were already taking losses from each system even at the original launch price.  You can't blame them for wanting to put Blu-ray in but that did drive up the cost a lot in the beginning.  It is selling better now than the other systems probably due to reduced price, game library, and features not available with the other consoles.  The feature rich PS3 made it impossible to have a low launch price but now that cost are down consumers see the value for the money. 

Yes, that was were the main competition was.  No one can deny that.  I have to include all systems that are listed in that generation due to the fact they are listed in the that generation.  Whether they could compete or not is a different story.  All that technology in the Neo Geo back in the day making it able to port their arcade games over 1:1 meant that there was a serious price to be paid for it.  It was pretty much like having an arcade in your home.  During that generation no other console could produce "arcade like" graphics the way Neo Geo could.  Then once the PS1 and N64 came out there was less noticeable difference in arcade vs home console games.  Thus leading to the downfall of the arcade.

True; I'm not saying that you or CGI are wrong.  Just saying that it's a grey area to me and could be argued either way.

Your car analogy certainly makes sense; in fact owning a Neo-Geo and its full library was about the same price as a Ferrari!  

well i see your point but mine was that its still apart of that gen so its competition. I just said in my last post that regardless of how its release was handled it was still competition regardless of how bad it did it was just bad competition. but you seem to be speaking in more of a technical sense to keep it from being considered so i guess it doesnt matter lol.

lol, good one, you almost got me!

SNES!!!!!