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sethnintendo on 01 April 2011
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CGI-Quality said:
d21lewis said:

it's already been clarified but I've already put on all of my gear, left my office, and am now standing on a fucking roof so I'm gonna post, anyway:

You can't just omit history to suit an argument.  Just like how devices like the wonderswan never rreached critical success or the neo geo pocket didn't set the world on fire, they competed (poorly) against the Gameboy.  The Neo Geo, CDi, 3DO, and even the goddam Jaguar tried to fight Nintendo for the crown.  If you want, I'll dig up their ads degrading the snes and genesis.  They were more powerful.  They competed and failed.  There's no specific definiton for competition.  The most powerful system has NEVER won.  The OP is 100% correct.

*Goes back indoors*

You honestly think the Neo-Geo was priced and situated in a competent manner to even begin to deal with Nintendo? Really? The system was mishandled to the max, it wasn't even available in markets that Nintendo systems were. I'm not sure how you can even begin to realistically defend that at all. That's not competing, it's existing in a state where you make little to no dent on the video game market. The SNES & Megadrive were the 16-bit era, and the more powerful SNES beat the Megadrive. Period.

Btw, the CDi, 3DO & Jaguar were within the 32-bit era and the 3DO was the weakest of the 32-bit systems (yes, even behind the PlayStation). The Jaguar also didn't truly use 64 bit graphics (AFAIR).


The CD-i is considered to be in the fourth generation (SNES, Genesis, etc). 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-i

The 3DO and Jaguar are in the 5th generation (as you stated).  However, they did come out towards the end of the fourth generation.  They launched the 5th generation.  3DO, Amiga CD32, and the Jaguar came out about a year before the PS1 was launched.  At the time they were probably among the most powerful machines.  3DO failed probably because it was ridiculously overpriced.  You can omit systems if you want (Neo Geo) to try and prove my point wrong.  However, I am including all systems by the generations as they are listed in.