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Wii first party library vs PS3 first party library?

PS3 1st party library 175 46.05%
 
Wii 1st party library 178 46.84%
 
Both 17 4.47%
 
Xbox 360 1st party library (vote me) 9 2.37%
 
Total:379
mibuokami on 30 March 2011
RolStoppable said:
mibuokami said:

Remember this is first party games, not games that are publish by Sony, so studios like Insomniac, The Game Republic and the first LBP game doesn't count as they were made by independent studio contracted by SCE.

Here is the full list of retail release from Sony's world wide development studios along with Metascore:

68 - NBA 07
75 - The Eye of Judgment
74 - Formula One Championship Edition
77 - MLB 07: The Show
84 - MotorStorm
63 - NBA 08
88 - Uncharted Drake's Fortune
84 - Warhawk
80 - Buzz!: Quiz TV
80 - Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
85 - MLB 08: The Show
63 - NBA 09 The Inside
82 - MotorStorm Pacific Rift
63 - SOCOM U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation
78 - Siren Blood Curse
91 - Killzone 2
90 - MLB 09: The Show
96 - Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
70 - EyePet
76 - MAG
91 - MLB 10 The Show
92 - God of War III
76 - Sports Champions
36 - Kung Fu Rider
56 - TV Superstars
84 - Gran Turismo 5
91 - LittleBigPlanet 2
67 - DC Universe Online (Please note that the PC version has higher score, this is the correct score)
84 - killzone 3

I've omitted 2 first party published games: Singstar (82) and Buzz TV (80) as both game has scores of expansion retail releases that I simply cannot keep track of that are generally inferior with regards to Metascore, though most tends to be around high 60's to high 70's.

You will also be suprise to know that the vast majority of crap MOVE game are actually not made by first party developer but from independent studio that were contracted by Sony. The only game in that list below 50 is Kung Fu rider and the next and only game that is below is 60 is TV Superstars.

I would do the same for Nintendo but I am not familiar with their internal studio and so cannot tell when an independent studio actually made the game.

If Nintendo or Sony publish games, then those effectively become first party titles. It's for that reason that financial reports of third parties like Level 5 exclude American and European sales of the Professor Layton series, because Nintendo publishes the games in these territories. It doesn't make sense to remove games like you did, because every first vs. third party sales analysis counts those games as first party titles. In other words, the name of the publisher determines whether a game is first or third party, not the name of the developer.

I concede the point but would like to offer a rebuttal: publisher changes depending on regions.

Lets take Final Fantasy VII and Ghostbuster as examples. Both of these game are published by Sony in Europe but they are clearly not first party games. Another example would be Demon Soul, the game was developed by FromSoftware with assistance from Sony Japan, but was published by Atlus in the US, Namco Bandai in Europe and Sony in Japan. How does this work under your definition of first party?

Further, this debate is also about the merit and quality of the first party games: a reflection of each console maker's respective developing studios, I don't feel that games that are not even developed in-house should effect the internal studio's pedegree.




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Antabus on 30 March 2011

PS3 wins this one easily. Sony has so many good 1st party games that it puts Nintendo in shame.

3 games:

Uncharted

GT5

Killzone



NiKKoM on 30 March 2011
Blacksaber said:

Bad! BAD BOY!

Don't open up the gates they won't ever close again.

You don't even get points for posts in your thread so why would you do such a horrid thing?

And I will leave this thread and keep the Sega bunker open for all of those who feel like waiting out the hellstorm while playing some Sega games.

*wears his Sega PJs and sits next to Blacksaber..... the two of us continues watching Sonic p0rn*



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

A203D on 30 March 2011

Well i would only say theres three games in the Wii library that i would want:

Super Mario Galaxy, The Last Story and Xenoblade.

and i wouldnt say that they're better than anything in the top of the PS3 library, but very good games none the less. 



milkyjoe on 30 March 2011

Nintendo and Sony are my two favourite developers right now, but Sony make more games that I don't like than Nintendo do, if that makes sense.

I can recognise that GT5, Killzone and others are well made games, but they have literally zero appeal to me. But that's balanced out by Uncharted, LBP and others.

With Nintendo, it's basically a few games in the Wii _____ series, Pikmin and Fire Emblem that I don't get on with, and when you consider how many IPs they have, that's not exactly a lot.

So Nintendo.



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Gamerace on 30 March 2011

Although I don't own a PS3 and probably never will I had to vote both because they both have a lot of great titles.

Wii:

(Super) Mario ___

Wii _____

SSBB

Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Kirby, Fire Emblem, Donkey Kong, etc., etc.

PS3:  (If I had one I'd be getting these 3)

Uncharted

Little Big Planet

Heavy Rain (I don't think that's 1st party but it's still exclusive)

GT5, GoW, Rachet & Clank, The Show, etc., etc.



 

Conegamer on 30 March 2011

Well, before I even answer I have to say PS3 will be first

EDIT**

What a surprise

At any rate, I have to say Wii, for it contains such great games as:

-Super Mario Galaxy (1 and 2)

-Donkey Kong Country Returns

-MEtroid Prime Trilogy

 

Nintendo have really raised the bar by releasing games for everyone, such as FPS, TPS, Action Adventure, Action, Platformers, Racers, Puzzle, Strategy etc. So yeah



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

goforgold on 30 March 2011

ps3 for everything except 4 and 6

M.A.G.

Little Big Planet

Gran Turismo 5



mibuokami on 30 March 2011
RolStoppable said:
mibuokami said:
RolStoppable said:

If Nintendo or Sony publish games, then those effectively become first party titles. It's for that reason that financial reports of third parties like Level 5 exclude American and European sales of the Professor Layton series, because Nintendo publishes the games in these territories. It doesn't make sense to remove games like you did, because every first vs. third party sales analysis counts those games as first party titles. In other words, the name of the publisher determines whether a game is first or third party, not the name of the developer.

I concede the point but would like to offer a rebuttal: publisher changes depending on regions.

Lets take Final Fantasy VII and Ghostbuster as examples. Both of these game are published by Sony in Europe but they are clearly not first party games. Another example would be Demon Soul, the game was developed by FromSoftware with assistance from Sony Japan, but was published by Atlus in the US, Namco Bandai in Europe and Sony in Japan. How does this work under your definition of first party?

Further, this debate is also about the merit and quality of the first party games: a reflection of each console maker's respective developing studios, I don't feel that games that are not even developed in-house should effect the internal studio's pedegree.

Your rebuttal doesn't add much considering that I already mentioned a similar example with Level 5's Professor Layton series. Demon's Souls is a first party game in Japan and a third party game in the rest of the world. Sounds odd, but that's how it is.

This thread is about first party games, not first party studios.

I saw your example, and I merely place mine at the extreme end, it simply doesn't make sense to say that any game published by Sony is automatically a Sony first party game in the conext of the OP. Otherwise games like ghostbuster would be first party in Europe when it even exist as a mutliplat!




goforgold on 30 March 2011
ChichiriMuyo said:

In my estimation nintendo beats Sony in this regard with ease.

Sony is fighting to have the diversity that Nintendo does and games like Modnation Racers show that...

But then Modnation racers fail to provide that spark that puts them on the sem level quality wise...

Even if they are much better graphically, because Nintendo's current system can't compete on techinical ability...

However, MK Wii not being the best looking thing in the history of ever didn't stop it from destroying many sales records and becoming one of the very best selling video games of all time...

And while Sony is still strugling to catch up in diversity Nintendo is expanding itself in genres it already has a solid foot-hold in... like bringing back DK and Kirby when NSMBWii had absolutely dominated in the sales department (also, that mf'er is truly innovative and awe inspiring at moments even though some people want to ignore that), and the quantity of these games showed that...

Nintendo does not fail to deliver.  They may allow shovelware on their system from 3rd parties, but even their worst games this gen are pretty damn good.  Not just good, and certainly not average, but "if you like this sort of game you will NOT be disappointed" good.

Sony can put out much better looking games and they have hit upon genres Nintendo doesn't do, but in every other aspect Nintendo just owns Sony.  I've had more "oh my god, even if that only lasted a minute it was an awesome gaming experience" moments on the Wii than I have had since I was a child exploring my first video game system.  I've played everything from the Atari 2600 up and no one has managed to drop my jaw like Nintendo has with the Wii (and motion controls only play a fair role in it, with "traditionally" controlled games being just as impressive or moreso).

so the only way to be considered diverse is to appeal to children.

how many Nintendo 1st party games are NOT geared towards children???