RolStoppable said:
mibuokami said:
Remember this is first party games, not games that are publish by Sony, so studios like Insomniac, The Game Republic and the first LBP game doesn't count as they were made by independent studio contracted by SCE.
Here is the full list of retail release from Sony's world wide development studios along with Metascore:
68 - NBA 07
75 - The Eye of Judgment
74 - Formula One Championship Edition
77 - MLB 07: The Show
84 - MotorStorm
63 - NBA 08
88 - Uncharted Drake's Fortune
84 - Warhawk
80 - Buzz!: Quiz TV
80 - Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
85 - MLB 08: The Show
63 - NBA 09 The Inside
82 - MotorStorm Pacific Rift
63 - SOCOM U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation
78 - Siren Blood Curse
91 - Killzone 2
90 - MLB 09: The Show
96 - Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
70 - EyePet
76 - MAG
91 - MLB 10 The Show
92 - God of War III
76 - Sports Champions
36 - Kung Fu Rider
56 - TV Superstars
84 - Gran Turismo 5
91 - LittleBigPlanet 2
67 - DC Universe Online (Please note that the PC version has higher score, this is the correct score)
84 - killzone 3
I've omitted 2 first party published games: Singstar (82) and Buzz TV (80) as both game has scores of expansion retail releases that I simply cannot keep track of that are generally inferior with regards to Metascore, though most tends to be around high 60's to high 70's.
You will also be suprise to know that the vast majority of crap MOVE game are actually not made by first party developer but from independent studio that were contracted by Sony. The only game in that list below 50 is Kung Fu rider and the next and only game that is below is 60 is TV Superstars.
I would do the same for Nintendo but I am not familiar with their internal studio and so cannot tell when an independent studio actually made the game.
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If Nintendo or Sony publish games, then those effectively become first party titles. It's for that reason that financial reports of third parties like Level 5 exclude American and European sales of the Professor Layton series, because Nintendo publishes the games in these territories. It doesn't make sense to remove games like you did, because every first vs. third party sales analysis counts those games as first party titles. In other words, the name of the publisher determines whether a game is first or third party, not the name of the developer.
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I concede the point but would like to offer a rebuttal: publisher changes depending on regions.
Lets take Final Fantasy VII and Ghostbuster as examples. Both of these game are published by Sony in Europe but they are clearly not first party games. Another example would be Demon Soul, the game was developed by FromSoftware with assistance from Sony Japan, but was published by Atlus in the US, Namco Bandai in Europe and Sony in Japan. How does this work under your definition of first party?
Further, this debate is also about the merit and quality of the first party games: a reflection of each console maker's respective developing studios, I don't feel that games that are not even developed in-house should effect the internal studio's pedegree.
