See, that's where you have a huge misconception on the move. I've been playing Killzone 3 with the move in different ways. 1 with sharpshooter (slightly active) and the other without it. In both situations I'm sitting down fairly relaxed.

Anyways  back on topic, I use my best friend's 360 but no kinect yet. I am interested in its application when it comes to something like child of eden. they should make more games like that from the ground up, it really interests me.

you are going to have to explain how i am stalking you when you originally quoted me... dillusions of some people.

And explain where I hi-lighted it to you. You are clearly stirring shit against me for some damn reason. Can someone moderate him, its getting frustrating that I get moderated for one thing and LivingMetal just gets let go

Yes, I was sent a moderation of you falsely accusing me of harassment when it was you in fact that made it a habit to accuse me of being a stealth troll and then you later back petaled to say I was trolling but I wasn't stealthy.  I was just giving my honest assessment but you were the one who had to be argumentative just because my comments were not pro-Xbox 360 enough for you.  Yes, this is being dealt with.

I am not going to discuss this with you. In the future if you post on topic things I will reply to you, please dont take personal shots at me. 

Also read my comments to you nothing was stealth-troll about it but whatever. If you dont like what I have to say, ignore my posts or report me. I am kinda over it.

past tense, 'was' i ended up playing with the move at a friends house and enjoying it, after playing a few times (and bringing my copy of killzone over to his house)  i ended up buying my own and its pretty much my goto controller for killzone (i also think ill never play heavy rain with a controller again also). im not into shooters much, but i doubt ill be buying any shooters in the future if they dont have move support.

im also looking forward to trying other types of games with move, heavy rain shows me that it can be good for things other than shooters also, though for the majority of my games ill still want my controller for :)

No, I'm not. I am starting to see that I will never be satisfied with any motion control device.

I agree with this portion specfically. 

I feel that the ideal solution is the one that Sony has created essentially taking a camera/controller approach.  Obviously, Sony would be wise next gen for example to incorporate a Kinect like camera technology their precise motion control wands to allow a wide array of experiences. 

This isn't to say Kinect itself is bad, it works a lot better than I expected but still not well enough for me to use for anything more than party-esque settings.   However, just like Move both peripherals desperately need more games to quench owners appetite.

Yes.

I was the guy that never got the appeal of Dance Dance Revolution, Tony Hawk's Ride, Guitar Hero, Rock Band, or Wii Fit.  I never tried the other peripherals (except DDR at my sis's house) and they are of comparable price.  I think that for the value, Kinect offers as much (if not more) to users as those items did to their audiences.

Never really thought about it that way, but yeah. Wii Fit was $100 and the BB has had pretty limited implementation outside of Wii Fit (after all the years it's been out, it's still the main reason to buy a Balance Board).

Considering that Kinect can be used as a general user interface and is more of a separate platform within a platform rather than a straightforward peripheral, it does have more value as an add-on. I won't say that value is $150, but if you're buying a new console, the bundle only adds $100 which is reasonable enough.