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LivingMetal on 24 March 2011
yo_john117 said:
LivingMetal said:
Metallicube said:

Wii is doing respectable considering it has basically no games right now. PS3 is doing ok, but lest we forget, it is available in more markets in EMAA, so it's almost automatically going to win every week here on out, thus is deserves to be judged more harshly IMO. The question will be by how much will it win EMAA each week.


No one is going to buy something they don't want regardless of where it's available.

Yeah but the point is its available in markets where the Wii and 360 aren't hence part of the reason why its selling better in EMEAA.


But if you live in "EMEAA" and you don't want a PS3, you're not going to buy one.  Just because it's available doesn't mean it's going to be bought.  All three consoles are available in North America with the PS3 being sold the less.  They are also available in Japan with the PS3 selling the most.  So what if the Wii and Xbox 360 are not available in certain parts of EMEAA.  People want the PS3 so they buy it, and it's been outselling the other home consoles, not because they are on shelves.  I don't see what's so hard about it.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 24 March 2011
Beuli2 said:

As expected, after the holidays the Kinect effect would just fade way, leaving the Xbox where it was. Even in Americas the year on year difference is only 12k.


Kinect isn't pushing XB360 sales very much anymore, but the device itself still sells well, regularly outselling Balance Board even in the markets where the latter is now also bundled with Wii for a quite attractive price. If it doesn't drop dramatically, we'll be able to say that with Kinect MS found a nice and quite big new part of the market, potentially as big as BB and WiiFit. Too early to tell, but up until now it's doing a lot better than I and many other sceptics expected (although I correctly predicted it would have hit a lot harder Balance Board than the whole Wii and it wouldn't have affected very much PS3). Anyway, Wii has nothing to worry ouside of Japan, with enough new big games at the right moments it should still be able to be this year's best seller WW.



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yo_john117 on 24 March 2011
LivingMetal said:
yo_john117 said:
LivingMetal said:
Metallicube said:

Wii is doing respectable considering it has basically no games right now. PS3 is doing ok, but lest we forget, it is available in more markets in EMAA, so it's almost automatically going to win every week here on out, thus is deserves to be judged more harshly IMO. The question will be by how much will it win EMAA each week.


No one is going to buy something they don't want regardless of where it's available.

Yeah but the point is its available in markets where the Wii and 360 aren't hence part of the reason why its selling better in EMEAA.


But if you live in "EMEAA" and you don't want a PS3, you're not going to buy one.  Just because it's available doesn't mean it's going to be bought.  All three consoles are available in North America with the PS3 being sold the less.  They are also available in Japan with the PS3 selling the most.  So what if the Wii and Xbox 360 are not available in certain parts of EMEAA.  People want the PS3 so they buy it, and it's been outselling the other home consoles, not because they are on shelves.  I don't see what's so hard about it.

So you didn't read what I said >_>



LivingMetal on 24 March 2011
yo_john117 said:
LivingMetal said:
yo_john117 said:
LivingMetal said:
Metallicube said:

Wii is doing respectable considering it has basically no games right now. PS3 is doing ok, but lest we forget, it is available in more markets in EMAA, so it's almost automatically going to win every week here on out, thus is deserves to be judged more harshly IMO. The question will be by how much will it win EMAA each week.


No one is going to buy something they don't want regardless of where it's available.

Yeah but the point is its available in markets where the Wii and 360 aren't hence part of the reason why its selling better in EMEAA.


But if you live in "EMEAA" and you don't want a PS3, you're not going to buy one.  Just because it's available doesn't mean it's going to be bought.  All three consoles are available in North America with the PS3 being sold the less.  They are also available in Japan with the PS3 selling the most.  So what if the Wii and Xbox 360 are not available in certain parts of EMEAA.  People want the PS3 so they buy it, and it's been outselling the other home consoles, not because they are on shelves.  I don't see what's so hard about it.

So you didn't read what I said >_>

So you're saying that if the Wii and Xbox 360 were selling in all the same territories in EMEAA with the PS3, the Wii and Xbox 360 should be outselling it.  Or are you saying the reason why the PS3 is doing so well in Japan is because the Wii and Xbox 360 are not being sold there?



psrock on 24 March 2011
LivingMetal said:
yo_john117 said:
LivingMetal said:
yo_john117 said:
LivingMetal said:
Metallicube said:

Wii is doing respectable considering it has basically no games right now. PS3 is doing ok, but lest we forget, it is available in more markets in EMAA, so it's almost automatically going to win every week here on out, thus is deserves to be judged more harshly IMO. The question will be by how much will it win EMAA each week.


No one is going to buy something they don't want regardless of where it's available.

Yeah but the point is its available in markets where the Wii and 360 aren't hence part of the reason why its selling better in EMEAA.


But if you live in "EMEAA" and you don't want a PS3, you're not going to buy one.  Just because it's available doesn't mean it's going to be bought.  All three consoles are available in North America with the PS3 being sold the less.  They are also available in Japan with the PS3 selling the most.  So what if the Wii and Xbox 360 are not available in certain parts of EMEAA.  People want the PS3 so they buy it, and it's been outselling the other home consoles, not because they are on shelves.  I don't see what's so hard about it.

So you didn't read what I said >_>

So you're saying that if the Wii and Xbox 360 were selling in all the same territories in EMEAA with the PS3, the Wii and Xbox 360 should be outselling it.  Or are you saying the reason why the PS3 is doing so well in Japan is because the Wii and Xbox 360 are not being sold there?

It really doesn't matter what he says anyway as the PS3 outsell both the Wii and 360 in the regular Europan markets anway. The only country the 360 sells more than the PS3 is the UK in Europe.



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NYANKS on 24 March 2011
Immortal said:
Torillian said:


True, it's just one of the reasons, but Metallicube has said time and time again he thinks that it makes the numbers unfair.  And with this I disagree, because being available in more areas is just Sony utilizing their resources like MS making XBL or Nintendo making games that sell like gangbusters or having a dedicated fanbase.  Is it unfair that Sony's machine is the most expensive?  no, because that's Sony's fault, just like it is Nintendo's and MS's fault that they haven't expanded out into more countries for distribution.


That's not exactly the same thing. The reason Sony gets to have those markets is because of its other markets (TVs and stuff) which give it distribution methods and brand recognition over there. That's an advantage given to them because of something non-gaming. It's something Nintendo and MS couldn't get unless they felt like throwing money down a black hole.

For fanboyish purposes, where we compare consoles against each other, that should be considered an unfair advantage since the advantage is rooted in something else that the company does, not gaming.

Of course, when we're actually doing unbiased analysis, it doesn't matter where the hell or why the hell it sold, it just did. But that's not what we're doing, :P.

All 3 companies got started and made money doing something unonvolved with video games, even Nintendo if I'm not mistaken.  You talk about throwing money down a black hole.  Without the insane amount of money made by Windows, MS might not have been able to even penetrate this market.  I'd say their biggest advantage is money, which is largely not from games.  I think a large amount of Nintendos fortune comes from an employee, not sure where that stands, but being responsible for like 40% of their success (arbitrary number for lolz) is a big advantage.  Sony, they have diversity, which is mirrored in their consoles funnily enough imo.    They have those advantages, it's totally fair.



LivingMetal on 24 March 2011
NYANKS said:
Immortal said:
Torillian said:


True, it's just one of the reasons, but Metallicube has said time and time again he thinks that it makes the numbers unfair.  And with this I disagree, because being available in more areas is just Sony utilizing their resources like MS making XBL or Nintendo making games that sell like gangbusters or having a dedicated fanbase.  Is it unfair that Sony's machine is the most expensive?  no, because that's Sony's fault, just like it is Nintendo's and MS's fault that they haven't expanded out into more countries for distribution.


That's not exactly the same thing. The reason Sony gets to have those markets is because of its other markets (TVs and stuff) which give it distribution methods and brand recognition over there. That's an advantage given to them because of something non-gaming. It's something Nintendo and MS couldn't get unless they felt like throwing money down a black hole.

For fanboyish purposes, where we compare consoles against each other, that should be considered an unfair advantage since the advantage is rooted in something else that the company does, not gaming.

Of course, when we're actually doing unbiased analysis, it doesn't matter where the hell or why the hell it sold, it just did. But that's not what we're doing, :P.

All 3 companies got started and made money doing something unonvolved with video games, even Nintendo if I'm not mistaken.  You talk about throwing money down a black hole.  Without the insane amount of money made by Windows, MS might not have been able to even penetrate this market.  I'd say their biggest advantage is money, which is largely not from games.  I think a large amount of Nintendos fortune comes from an employee, not sure where that stands, but being responsible for like 40% of their success (arbitrary number for lolz) is a big advantage.  Sony, they have diversity, which is mirrored in their consoles funnily enough imo.    They have those advantages, it's totally fair.

 

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Gojimaster on 25 March 2011

It is interesting to see that Kinect is 5k from dropping below Wii Fit Plus in the EU. 



 

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spaceguy on 25 March 2011
CGI-Quality said:
ethomaz said:

Adjustments comeback...

DS UP 55,366
Wii UP 44,541
PS3 UP 42,047
360 UP 8,240

Now PS3 outsold 360 every week except Week Ending 29th Jan 2011 (before 360 won 3 weeks).

I'm guessing this is WW?

Edit: Nevermind, I see that it is. And between Jan 1 & 29, the 360 only outsold the PS3 once (Jan 29 week). So, besides that week, the PS3 has outsold it in all of 2011 (albeit, some of those weeks are really % ties).

I have a feeling shipments will change that.



Spankey on 25 March 2011

Hold on...what happened to the whole LG thing and the seizure of PS3's in the Netherlands?

Could the PS3 have sold over 85k this (last) week?

 

I'm confused...



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