Well actually its a no brainer at this point.

So far there are 2 Full forza games this gen, both above 90% averages on metacritic. By the end of this year there will be 3 possible AAA forzas this gen. 

So far this gen PS3 has only seen one full GT game this gen, which has an average in the 80's on metacritic.

So right there.......Forza has GT beat in quality and quantity this gen.

But also there were the flaws GT5 had as a video game such as poor menus, bad music, 800 PS2 car models, no cockpit views in those 800 cars, online is poor compared to forza 3, no car personalization compared to forza........u get the idea.

GT can be argued to be a better sim......but forza has sim qualities as well but wat makes it superior is that its simply a better video game.

We are gamers after all and forza recognizes that. not to be a fanboy, but the facts are evident. 

Can we get a ruling now that anyone comparing Forza to GT in future threads will get banned, I'm sick to death of the same old childish bitching.

I second that.  

3rd. just compare # of games this gen and metacritic averages and there shouldnt be any further discussion needed.