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Avinash_Tyagi on 22 December 2007

No Nintendo's mistake in the 90's wasn't due to letting the compeition beat them with improved tech, it was twofold, first there was the fact that they lost library support, largest library is very important, and PS1 had a much larger library than the N64, this was due to the liscensing issues of the NES and SNES, in addition there was a lack of product differentation, the SNEs/N64 and GCN all were too much like the competition when they launched. Nintendo has always done best when their system has different strengths than their competition at launch



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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DOATS1 on 22 December 2007

micorsoft will be out first. they saw the damage that it done to the ps3, they're going to want to inflict more damage. unless sony play their cards right like nintendo, and give the audience what they actually want.

i also think that one of the companies will show signs of fading out of the vg business next gen.




Mummelmann on 22 December 2007

Ninty will be out first.



Avinash_Tyagi on 22 December 2007
Mummelmann said:
Ninty will be out first.

 Because Sony and MS leave the game market, youre right : P

 

No seriously, there is no way Ninty will be out first 



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

HappySqurriel on 22 December 2007
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Mummelmann said:
Ninty will be out first.

 Because Sony and MS leave the game market, youre right : P

 

No seriously, there is no way Ninty will be out first 


I would put the probability of each of the manufacturers being out first as:

Microsoft: 45%
Sony: 35%
Nintendo: 20%

Even though I don't think it will happen this way, it is possible that Nintendo will go from selling 60% of current generation consoles in 2008 to 50% of current generation consoles in 2009, and falling to 40% in 2010 and 30% in 2011. If Nintendo started to see this trend flesh out it is likely that they would plan to release a follow up console in late 2011 while they were still a very popular console manufacturer; at the same time, Nintendo's loss in yearly sales would probably lead to increases in sales of XBox 360 and PS3 systems and they would (probably) see slightly longer lifespans.



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Avinash_Tyagi on 22 December 2007
HappySqurriel said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Mummelmann said:
Ninty will be out first.

 Because Sony and MS leave the game market, youre right : P

 

No seriously, there is no way Ninty will be out first 


I would put the probability of each of the manufacturers being out first as:

Microsoft: 45%
Sony: 35%
Nintendo: 20%

Even though I don't think it will happen this way, it is possible that Nintendo will go from selling 60% of current generation consoles in 2008 to 50% of current generation consoles in 2009, and falling to 40% in 2010 and 30% in 2011. If Nintendo started to see this trend flesh out it is likely that they would plan to release a follow up console in late 2011 while they were still a very popular console manufacturer; at the same time, Nintendo's loss in yearly sales would probably lead to increases in sales of XBox 360 and PS3 systems and they would (probably) see slightly longer lifespans.


 Really unlikely, since consoles don't tend to fall off like that, the DS is a good indicator of the Wii's future sales trends



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

CrazzyMan on 22 December 2007

Again, why Sony should stop PS3 project???

PS3 delivers what it promised. PS3 delivers EXPERIENCE.
With better optimizations of Cell we will see just MEGA results.

It`s ONLY FIRST year PS3 games came.
And for now,
Uncharted - Best looking console game + best looking 3rd person action game.
Ratchet - Best looking 3d platform game.
HS - best looking slasher game.
GT5:P - Best looking driving game.
Lair - one of Best looking games.
Naruto ps3 project - gonna be best looking Anime game.
KZ2 - will be most cinematic game on pair with MGS4.
FFXIII - will be best looking JRPG.

And if you people forgot, PS2 had only 4Mb Vram. FFXII, GoW2 anyone?
It`s all about Cell. Optimizations will show the difference, already showing.

Wii could easy lose it`s steam, as it did in Japan recently. Only 2008 will tell how succesull Wii is. If it fails, then 70% we will see first new Wii HD.

Next one with 85% probability will be x720. It will show Crysis graphics in 1080p. BUT, such games developement cost will be over 30-50 mln. $
M$ could easy just give up on console market.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

souixan on 22 December 2007
CrazzyMan said:
Again, why Sony should stop PS3 project???

PS3 delivers what it promised. PS3 delivers EXPERIENCE.
With better optimizations of Cell we will see just MEGA results.

It`s ONLY FIRST year PS3 games came.
And for now,
Uncharted - Best looking console game + best looking 3rd person action game.
Ratchet - Best looking 3d platform game.
HS - best looking slasher game.
GT5:P - Best looking driving game.
Lair - one of Best looking games.
Naruto ps3 project - gonna be best looking Anime game.
KZ2 - will be most cinematic game on pair with MGS4.
FFXIII - will be best looking JRPG.

And if you people forgot, PS2 had only 4Mb Vram. FFXII, GoW2 anyone?
It`s all about Cell. Optimizations will show the difference, already showing.

Wii could easy lose it`s steam, as it did in Japan recently. Only 2008 will tell how succesull Wii is. If it fails, then 70% we will see first new Wii HD.

Next one with 85% probability will be x720. It will show Crysis graphics in 1080p. BUT, such games developement cost will be over 30-50 mln. $
M$ could easy just give up on console market.

You know specifically speaking the Wii could handle HD it's just locked.. it's more powerful then the original xbox which gave HD output. And most of those things about best looking are purely opinion... I like mario galaxy's look more the ratchet, because look isn't purely about pushing polygon counts and the naruto game on the 360 already looks like the anime..

Shissy on 22 December 2007

Nintendo/Microsoft will be the first to release a system in the year 2011. Sony will release PS4 2012.

My guess.



Avinash_Tyagi on 22 December 2007
CrazzyMan said:
Again, why Sony should stop PS3 project???

PS3 delivers what it promised. PS3 delivers EXPERIENCE.
With better optimizations of Cell we will see just MEGA results.

It`s ONLY FIRST year PS3 games came.
And for now,
Uncharted - Best looking console game + best looking 3rd person action game.
Ratchet - Best looking 3d platform game.
HS - best looking slasher game.
GT5:P - Best looking driving game.
Lair - one of Best looking games.
Naruto ps3 project - gonna be best looking Anime game.
KZ2 - will be most cinematic game on pair with MGS4.
FFXIII - will be best looking JRPG.

And if you people forgot, PS2 had only 4Mb Vram. FFXII, GoW2 anyone?
It`s all about Cell. Optimizations will show the difference, already showing.

Wii could easy lose it`s steam, as it did in Japan recently. Only 2008 will tell how succesull Wii is. If it fails, then 70% we will see first new Wii HD.

Next one with 85% probability will be x720. It will show Crysis graphics in 1080p. BUT, such games developement cost will be over 30-50 mln. $
M$ could easy just give up on console market.

 gaming slows in Japan every year in October and November, it wasn't Wii but a season issue



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)