AMAZING PS3 numbers... best february ever.

I thought so ... but wasn't sure. I agree.

But Move wasn't created to compete with Kinect.  It was created to compete with Wii.  As was Kinect of course.

What CGI is getting at - I think - is that:

• Move was designed and launched more as a traditional peripheral and to allow Sony to get "Wii like" games as well as hybrid (or dual support) titles on PS3.  It's done that and it's selling well as a peripheral.  I'd note that while there tends to be a focus on bundles from Patcher, etc. the Move currently isn't that attractive as a bundle with PS3 and sells more as a peripheral to PS3 owners. Hence it's doing fine so far as a peripheral and being bought for games as diverse as Killzone 3, RE5, EyePet, etc.
• Kinect however was designed to launch more as a console extension and to create a new platform with 360, hence the far greater focus on Kinect as an interface rather than just another controller peripheral.  MS have also priced and positioned Kinect bundles to be far more attractive than just buying a 360 and getting Kinect later.  Kinect has also been focused squarely on Kinect specific titles vs Move's focus across hybrids and a few Move specific titles.

Both have done well, Kinect particularly well in US of course, respective to their individual launches and focuses.  What CGI is pointing out is Move in some ways has been launched and positioned more modestly than Kinect as a strategy against the Wii and not specifically against Kinect - i.e. when Move was developed Sony's focus was the Wii not Kinect.

Move I think reflects Sony as a hardware company, and of course in terms of raw units might sell more than Kinect overall in the end - as Kinect is a single sale whereas PS3 owners who really get in to Move could easily buy one camera plus 4 Move wands.  This is classic peripheral focus.

Kinect on the other hand is more of an attempt to extend a platform with something that is part peripheral and part extension of core operating system capabilities - which reflects MS as more of a software company that has some hardware to serve as a platform for the software.

If you are refering to the time they were developing Move and Sony was unaware of kinnect's capabilities (and I think you are) then yeah, of course you are totally right.

However, if you meant Sony expected Move to beat Kinnect even after both were announced and even up to the launch then I can't agree with the bolded bit.

 X360 has the bigger user base and more marketing mu$cle. Not to mention that Kinnect got so much more hype and was more "revolutionary".

Any sane person would never have backed on Move beating kinnect, not even the most ardent of fanboys (remember I said "sane person").

You make good sense and I am not saying you are wrong but I believe that Sony and MS are competing with each other more than with wii (no offence to nintendo supporters).

Their consoles competed for power (CPU, GPU, HD and all that jive), the vast majority of games are on both consoles so they compete for multiplat sales and both brought out addons at the same time again to compete with other.

i'll second that but it also means they needed kinect when i siad 360 could sale on its on without it, or it would have happened any way who knows right?

sales for the big 3 are solid and even with the 10 day injucntion on PS3 sales (not sure when it starts)they look to meet my projections of 50m sold in the next 2 to 3 months.

I keep hearing people say they see a ton more 360 ads in America, but it's the complete opposite for me. I see PS3 ads ALL the time and I rarely see 360. I have seen more Move commercials than Kinect commercials over the life span of both peripheral.

I really want to know if I'm the only one in America that notices this. I live in CA if that means anything.   

Here in the UK the channels are flooded with more Move than Kinect adverts.

I think it has more to do with Sony marketing in more places less popular. Why would Sony waste their money and advertise in a place that they know the ps3 can sell well like Japan, when they could get potential new comsumers in a place less liked like America. MS probably advertises more in Europe than America because they know they don't need to advertising nearly as much in America because it already sells great here.    

It's not surprising.

Kinect is surprisingly fun.

If this was a couple years ago when i was more able to drop money eaisly like when i got my consoles i'd get a kinect without thinking twice.

Kinect really works way better then I thought would be possible with the current tech.