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Zlejedi said:

Yes. Unless Poland wins Euro 2012 which would herald coming of doomsday ;)

X360 will reach 65M this year PS3 will finish year above 60 milions.

2012 will see price drop to sweet spot of 200$ for PS3 and similar responce from Microsft which will keep both at 15M/year level.

At this point of time both will be in 75-80M range.

2013 will be a launch of next gen at which point X360/PS3 will take the role of PS2 as a consoles for poor people and for emerging markets.

PS2 sold 30M units from 1st Jan 2007 to end of Feb 2011 (plus few milions undertracking on VGC)

Do you still think they won't reach 200M long term ?

It all boils down to opinion, really, but I find your theory highly unlikely.

This year, PS3's exclusives aren't gonna help its YOY drops any and 360 is holding on to a faint weekly YOY gain likely to be decimated come June. Price cuts won't be able to remedy these falls for either of them.

In 2012, with the looming threat of the Bii and general aging, the HD consoles will start completely collapsing like Wii is right now. 15m sounds more ridiculous than anything else. A $199 price cut might remedy this somewhat for PS3, but it really isn't some kind of magical charm that'll fix everything.

As for afterwards, the HD consoles have never had the staying power of the PS2 anywhere and most likely never will. Not in the developing markets, either.

170m, to me, sounds overly hopeful and 200m simply fantastic.

I'm willing to respect your stance though. I suppose it could theoretically happen.



 

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Cobretti2 said:

PLEASE lame excuse why 3rd parties keep making games for 360/PS3.

Nintendo has always had shit third party support even when its capabilities matched the xbox last gen.

Having said that. I am happy my two hd consoles have reached the 100million milestone.


Wait Xbox had all the third party support last gen? where was I??

The reason why Nintendo had "shit" third party support for the last TWO gens was because there console failed so bad compared to the PSOne and PS2 they had ALL the third party games. Before that with the NES and SNES the 3rd party games were all over Nintendo.

Unless your being sarcastic some way, if so I didn't notice.



TheWon said:

Congrates on doing on what systems in the past were able to do by themselves.

360/PS3 the Miami Heat of the Gaming Industry. Joining forces and still losing!


im actually confused by this statement, together their sales are above wii, seperately they are outselling wii on a consistent basis.



 

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Gilgamesh said:


Wait Xbox had all the third party support last gen? where was I??

The reason why Nintendo had "shit" third party support for the last TWO gens was because there console failed so bad compared to the PSOne and PS2 they had ALL the third party games. Before that with the NES and SNES the 3rd party games were all over Nintendo.

Unless your being sarcastic some way, if so I didn't notice.

THIS!

Original Xbox support was shizen if the companies had a choice they seemed to choose ps2 more often than not.



 

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That's cool that both HD Consoles have solid a combined 100Million. I just wish people would stop combining them into one Console it is PS3 & XBOX 360 dam it!!!



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Cobretti2 said:

PLEASE lame excuse why 3rd parties keep making games for 360/PS3.

Nintendo has always had shit third party support even when its capabilities matched the xbox last gen.

Having said that. I am happy my two hd consoles have reached the 100million milestone.


NINTENDO Famicom/NES and Super Famicom/SNES say hello!!



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hikaruchan said:

That's cool that both HD Consoles have solid a combined 100Million. I just wish people would stop combining them into one Console it is PS3 & XBOX 360 dam it!!!


Its done so they can still act like they got some kind of victory over Nintendo.

Well you guys win.  You hurt a billion dollar company, by combining sale numbers  of two competing companys on an internet forum.  You sure showed them.  *shakes fist* 



Dinomax said:
hikaruchan said:

That's cool that both HD Consoles have solid a combined 100Million. I just wish people would stop combining them into one Console it is PS3 & XBOX 360 dam it!!!


Its done so they can still act like they got some kind of victory over Nintendo.

Well you guys win.  You hurt a billion dollar company, by combining sale numbers  of two competing companys on an internet forum.  You sure showed them.  *shakes fist* 

Isn't it the Wii fans who call them "the HD twins", to indicate that to them the PS3/360 have no individuality? Didn't Wii fans start out the combining of sales of these consoles by celebrating each .1% Wii gained in marketshare on it's way to the 50% mark (which by now of course is impossible to reach) ?



hikaruchan said:
Cobretti2 said:

PLEASE lame excuse why 3rd parties keep making games for 360/PS3.

Nintendo has always had shit third party support even when its capabilities matched the xbox last gen.

Having said that. I am happy my two hd consoles have reached the 100million milestone.


NINTENDO Famicom/NES and Super Famicom/SNES say hello!!


lol that was before they had any real competition. (WAITS FOR SEGA fans to flame me haha).

 

Gilgamesh said:
Cobretti2 said:

PLEASE lame excuse why 3rd parties keep making games for 360/PS3.

Nintendo has always had shit third party support even when its capabilities matched the xbox last gen.

Having said that. I am happy my two hd consoles have reached the 100million milestone.


Wait Xbox had all the third party support last gen? where was I??

The reason why Nintendo had "shit" third party support for the last TWO gens was because there console failed so bad compared to the PSOne and PS2 they had ALL the third party games. Before that with the NES and SNES the 3rd party games were all over Nintendo.

Unless your being sarcastic some way, if so I didn't notice.

I found N64 support wasn't too bad, Gamecube not too bad either. Wii is FAR WORST.

People really thing xbox had shit support? WOW I found it to be great, But I guess it all comes down to taste and I was comparing more so to Gamecube only than PS2.

Also everyone knwos the exucses they use they been mentioned to death over and over.

ie Only Nintendo games sell. etc..



 

 

Lafiel said:
Dinomax said:
hikaruchan said:

That's cool that both HD Consoles have solid a combined 100Million. I just wish people would stop combining them into one Console it is PS3 & XBOX 360 dam it!!!


Its done so they can still act like they got some kind of victory over Nintendo.

Well you guys win.  You hurt a billion dollar company, by combining sale numbers  of two competing companys on an internet forum.  You sure showed them.  *shakes fist* 

Isn't it the Wii fans who call them "the HD twins", to indicate that to them the PS3/360 have no individuality? Didn't Wii fans start out the combining of sales of these consoles by celebrating each .1% Wii gained in marketshare on it's way to the 50% mark (which by now of course is impossible to reach) ?

Yes, but combining the platforms is fun when the Wii was winning and not now.

For real though, this generation effectively had two markets, one being the HD market with the PS360PC and the other essentially being the Wii (they may be in the same market but not on the same terms). The fact that the HD segment not only remained larger through the gen so far but is now growing a whole lot quicker is significant and it shows the overall direction the gaming industry and consumers are taking. Nintendo were supposed to "save" the gaming industry again this gen (it was apparently ripe for saving for some reason, despite last gen being the most profitable and biggest gen in history by far) and the likes of Malstrom and his zealots convinced people that the whole industry would go for the Nintendo model and change their ways (you see, Malstrom, in his elitist way, wants gaming to be the way he likes it and not have elements he dislikes and games he doesn't approve of) and since this isn't happening some heads start to turn and people are confused.

It is true that were many threads celebrating every 0.1% the Wii gained in marketshare and there were constant shouts of "Nintendomination" in weekly sales threads followed by big smileys and index fingers pointed at the silly and infantile HD fanboys who were not only getting trounced but were also being whiny about it. A lot has changed since then and it seems that a large part of the Wii fanbase were not only just as good at gloating as the PS2 fans last gen but they are also equally poor at being beaten in weekly sales as the HD crowd.

This milestone is significant, it shows how the market is faring and it shows that the penetration and spread of HD tech in both movies and games and good online components are key to staying relevant over time in this day and age. Being innovative is great but shunning technology and conventional formats and architecture simply for the sake of being different might not work all the time and in the long run.

What does it matter anyway? The Wii has sold the most consoles and none of the others will ever catch it, not even close. I encourage everyone who started the 0.1% marketshare gain threads and remained adament that the PS2 would get heavily outsold and that the Wii would take the magical 50% marketshare by the end of 2008 (there were a lot of them) to take a small piece of humble pie and realize that whatever happens from here on out the fact still remains; the Wii has won the hardware sale race, simple as that. Its long overdue.

I'm sorry for the rant but this has annoyed me for years in here; groups that claim moral superiority and mature high ground that turn out to be just as bad as those they flog and condemn. The boards are every bit as sour today as they were two or three years back, the change lies only in which groups express what. Just shows that no one is better and we're all the same when it comes down to it.

And to the ones who choose to gloat over current weekly sales right now and laugh at those who whine; think long and hard, the charts may find themselves different yet again and the cycle of petty self indulgence and ridicule needs to be broken at some point. In a generation where every fan has been both at the bottom of the charts and the very top, you'd think there were more nuances and respect to be traced by now.