noname2200 said:
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Clearly, someone's still using NexGenWars, even though they last updated two years ago.
noname2200 said:
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Clearly, someone's still using NexGenWars, even though they last updated two years ago.
Cobretti2 said:
The secret is forget you are playing a game with a controller and jsut move without thinking too much and hitting the Z or A button to shoot. The movments dont even need to be that much when you sitting. I jsut rest my arm on my leg an duse my writs to move around the screen. IE NO BIG stupid hand movements some people do. I initially had trouble too. But what I found is being a dual analog stick player there was more finger movement and button hitting etc.. With the remote and nunchuck it is simplified. |
Hey, that's what I do. It's nice and accurate (even though you are ironically shooting from the hip). And in some parts of Goldeneye and other games I found it was great for just mowing down a crowd of enemies, which is hard to do with analog pointing.
A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.
Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs
That's cool.
So Eurocom, no hard feelings over Dead Space: Extraction?? 
| -PaNdOrA- said: That's cool. So Eurocom, no hard feelings over Dead Space: Extraction?? |
Hey, they just made the game. EA decided a game like RE4 shouldn't be like RE4 on the Wii.
A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.
Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs
| oniyide said: ^^^ poor variety of genres?? WIi has the worst variety of all the current gen systems. THe only thing Wii has in abundance that the HDs dont is shovelware and exercise games and thanks to kinect/Move they got those too. Fighting, FPS, 3rd person, platformers 2d and 3d, racing arcade and simulation, RPG western AND Japanese, puzzle, beat em ups, sports, open world, MMOs. HDs slaughter Wii in all those categories, does the wii even have an open world game beside Bully?? how about WRPG?? no? thought so, i wish people who didnt know what the hell they were talking about wouldnt make comments like that. its obvious you have never touched a HD console, im starting to think you dont even play anything unless its Ninty made stop trying?? thats exactly what it means, you look at a fitness or dance game and there doing 10-20 mil and cost next to nothing to make contrast that to the core games which cost more and make what?? 500K 1 mil if lucky and cost much more, financial you would be an idiot not to make the former. THe fact of the matter is that most Wii owners just want to dance. You cant accept that and try to twist it to make the devs look evil. THe fact is you give the people what they want and the MAJORITY (looking at sales) Wii owners like those kinds of games where you dance and get exercise. You can go to the hightest cliff and scream at the top of your lungs, the silent majority will trump you everytime |
Sure, the wii's variety is less than stellar in comparison to PS360(not that I mind though). Do you honestly believe nintendo does not dominate the 2d and 3d platformers? Or are you trying to be more dramatic? Also, I'd contend the wii's implementation of motion has been better. Granted that is perhaps is an unfair comparison since the wiimote's been on the market, but the comparison remains. Red Steel 2 and boom blox bash party are unique experiences that show the potential for 'core' usage of motion.
@lordtheknight 20-30 for games thats ok but i dont know where your going, but used FPSs games are relatively cheap, cause they are in so abundance. both MOH for GC were about 2 bucks each, timesplitters 2 was about 8 bucks, they would have to throw in a mass of extra features to justify the price. and i dont know how you would do that with such old games. really, they need to be 20-30 for compilations b4 anyone in their right mind would even consider buying those
@pacman my bad i was being dramatic i know that Ninty owns the platform genre. but my point is this, can any WIi fan honestly look at the Wii library and say that there is a type of game on WII that could NOT be found on the HDs, im talking pure genres here?? i cant think of any, any one know please chime in. Do the HDs have types of games that simply have no equivalent on the Wii??? WRPGS for one. as for the motion tech, i agree to an extent but i would argue that there is some things the HDs motion tech can do that is not possible with Wiimote. the cameras add augmented reality so games like Eyepet & tumble cannot be done on WII, but RS2 can be done on Move (dont know about Kinect) we just need a dev brave enough to do so.
some one want to chime in on what these niche genres are??? cause im sure you can find something on the HDs, maybe not retail but definelty on PSN/Live thats where all the weird stuff goes
| oniyide said: @lordtheknight 20-30 for games thats ok but i dont know where your going, but used FPSs games are relatively cheap, cause they are in so abundance. both MOH for GC were about 2 bucks each, timesplitters 2 was about 8 bucks, they would have to throw in a mass of extra features to justify the price. and i dont know how you would do that with such old games. really, they need to be 20-30 for compilations b4 anyone in their right mind would even consider buying those |
Well you won't have to throw in as much as you are assuming. If it's one thing Virtual Console, Mario 25th Anniversary Collection, Super Mario Advance, GBA NES Classics, RE4 Wii Edition, God of War HD Collection, PSOne Classics, the Sega Genesis collections, and so many other re-releases have showed us, it's that gamers will pay for older games, even if you don't load them with features. Just make sure the price is reasonable.
But some would still work. I'm thinking, and this is just hypothetically assuming I could make it happen this way, that:
* Activision would make a port of Call of Duty Legacy (the PS2 double pack of the CoD console games) with graphics taken at least from the GC/Xbox versions, and with online updated with the features of Modern Warfare, and even allow patching like in Black Ops. Then have the control of MWR along with Classic Control support (basically just what the games are on gamepads).
* EA does a compilation of its MoH games on the 6th gen systems, with any online improvements from the new game added. And do a port of Black with local and online multiplayer.
* Not sure who has the rights to the first three Timesplitters, but make a trilogy of those games, and add online if they didn't have it (which likely would have only been on the Xbox version anyway).
* A proper Metroid Prime multiplayer game (since this is hypothetical, why limit this to third parties?), which would have Motion Plus for things like throwing bombs or using the grapple beam like a whip.
* Splinter Cell Trilogy (not limiting this to FPS either) with graphics at least as good as the Xbox versions.
And that would just be a sample of the first phase. Plus all of them would have at least a $10 million marketing campaign, since people don't rush out to buy things they haven't heard of, especially when it's on a system where they don't think the games are on the system anyway, so we have to make sure they know.
A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.
Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs
^^^^ those are some good ideas, but there not gonna happen, they would need to put up a bunch of servers for most of those games and if they are already iffy on Wii I dont think they will want to do that. and there is a Splinter Cell compilation that is coming (on PS3 ;) my question is, will people care??? thats it, you can throw ads all over the place, doesnt help for every game. Didnt help for Conduit. If people dont care they dont care. and its not like all these compilations and re-releases set the world ablaze, Tomb Raider and Sly come to mind as games that didnt do to hot
| oniyide said: ^^^^ those are some good ideas, but there not gonna happen, they would need to put up a bunch of servers for most of those games and if they are already iffy on Wii I dont think they will want to do that. and there is a Splinter Cell compilation that is coming (on PS3 ;) my question is, will people care??? thats it, you can throw ads all over the place, doesnt help for every game. Didnt help for Conduit. If people dont care they dont care. and its not like all these compilations and re-releases set the world ablaze, Tomb Raider and Sly come to mind as games that didnt do to hot |
1. I didn't claim they would. I wrote "hyopthetical" more than once. Did you miss that.
2. A bit of servers, but it's not as though Wii games don't have online support. Plus Wii games do allow charging if they become popular enough.
3. Conduit didn't get that much marketing. There were ads, but not "all over the place", and still not as much as the HD systems (despite how you try to claim some didn't have any just because you didn't see any ads). Plus unlike Conduit, these games already proved they are good, which is why older games can still sell.
A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.
Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs