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oldschoolfool on 27 February 2011
Soulblazer said:
crissindahouse said:
Soulblazer said:

 I am in the group that says fps rarely evovle in terms of gameplay, you say that rpgs are the same but thats not true at least not when it comes to how they play, they have different battle forms which makes them interesting. I have been playing fps for quite some time and most of them play the same, run shoot kill and repeat. Of course games like half life 2 and even vanquish prove that the genre can have new interesting ideas but there are few examples of that as most publishers go the easy way and copy call of duty instead of actually innovate in their games.


ok they have different battle forms but they won't get hundreds of new forms in the future so they don't evolve as well. you have round based battles, you have battles like in oblivion or 3rd person view battles like in da but what do you expect in the future?

its funny because if you change a shooter its not a shooter anymore so how should they change the gameplay? if you give the player more ways to play and more things to do they will call it rpg (like fallout 3)

the question is why is there so much hate because there isnt so much hate agains sport games or racing games and they cant change as well. they cant let you do other things in a football game then playing football and everyone knows that but in fps everyone is complainig about it that you just run and shoot. yeah its a shooter why should you do other things? and if you can do more than that no one calls it fps anymore. its just a big joke! put more in a shooter and you say rpg to it and dont put more in and you guys say fps dont evolve lol

Wrpg do not evolve that much but Jrpgs do evolve and only on my ds I have played plenty and each quite different than the next you just have to see The World Ends With You and youll see something truly special. You are right in the fact that its quite difficult to change how a shooter plays which is why the hate for the genre as it arguably the most popular genre but without real merits to gain that position as it cant evolve or chooses not to. It has become the easy way for many developers that in search for a form of gameplay they choose shooting because its always the same and it sells. The sports and racing games are not popular so they get a free pass but they have also become stagnant. I do not hate the genre itself, Halo was one heck of a good game and I am currently playing goldeneye on my wii but in the end its more of the same and I think developers can change that but they wont. I dont mean they have to change the shooting aspect of the game, but bringing other ideas to the table.

So because something is'nt popular it get's a free pass? Again,you can make the more of the same arguement in any genre. Level up,grind,fight enemies over and over,get better stuff,have character's talk to you over and over=RPG's in general. I think developers can change that but they won't. I don't mean they have to change the RPG aspect's of the game,but bringing other ideas to the table.



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oniyide on 27 February 2011

@garnett  LOL thats pretty much it, haters gonna hate



fordy on 27 February 2011

People think they have the ultimate answer here, claiming jealousy, but it's not always a simple answer:

I play games to escape real life, to do stuff that for instance breaks the laws of physics, but FPSes are working towards becoming more and more like real life, hence my disinterest for them.



oniyide on 27 February 2011

^^^^ as a guy who was actully in the military and was deployed I can tell you there is nothing realistic about any of those games. If I got shot i wasnt going to crouch down for a few seconds and automatically be alright.



Mr Khan on 27 February 2011

Not strictly an issue of "hate what's popular," it's a matter of "what's popular is pulling resources from the kinds of games *i* want made," much like a lot of the hate for companies creating "casual divisions" and such. The millions of dollars spent to advertise your FPS of choice could be spent on a jaw-dropping racer, or something



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twesterm on 27 February 2011
oldschoolfool said:
Xen said:
Boutros said:

Because they're popular.




So,it's just the hate on something that's popular thing?


http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=125207



 

Mummelmann on 27 February 2011
oniyide said:

^^^^ as a guy who was actully in the military and was deployed I can tell you there is nothing realistic about any of those games. If I got shot i wasnt going to crouch down for a few seconds and automatically be alright.


Yeah, I don't get where people have gotten the idea that modern FPS games are realistic. They're really not, they're poor simulations of reality, much like an action packed and somewhat silly Hollywood movie (at best). The only FPS I've played that comes somewhat close to reality is SWAT 4 but it still has a ways to go.

Call of Duty games are about as realistic as Mario Kart. Doesn't stop the older ones from being great fun though!



oldschoolfool on 27 February 2011
twesterm said:
oldschoolfool said:
Xen said:
Boutros said:

Because they're popular.




So,it's just the hate on something that's popular thing?


http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=125207


notice I said over-rated and never said hated. I know you thought you were being clever,but that's not really what I was doing and you can't really compare the 2.



sethnintendo on 27 February 2011
Mummelmann said:
oniyide said:

^^^^ as a guy who was actully in the military and was deployed I can tell you there is nothing realistic about any of those games. If I got shot i wasnt going to crouch down for a few seconds and automatically be alright.


Yeah, I don't get where people have gotten the idea that modern FPS games are realistic. They're really not, they're poor simulations of reality, much like an action packed and somewhat silly Hollywood movie (at best). The only FPS I've played that comes somewhat close to reality is SWAT 4 but it still has a ways to go.

Call of Duty games are about as realistic as Mario Kart. Doesn't stop the older ones from being great fun though!

Try hardcore mode (besides for the healing over time that is more releastic).  True FPS players should stick to hardcore type modes anyways.  No map (unless recon plane, blackbird, etc), increased bullet damage, no HUD...  Game types like Search&Destroy where you can only die once are more realstic.  Hardcore Search&Destroy sounds about the most realistic as FPS can get.  Anyways, they will never be realistic cause then everyone would be dead and not able to play.



FinalEvangelion on 27 February 2011
Mr Khan said:

Not strictly an issue of "hate what's popular," it's a matter of "what's popular is pulling resources from the kinds of games *i* want made," much like a lot of the hate for companies creating "casual divisions" and such. The millions of dollars spent to advertise your FPS of choice could be spent on a jaw-dropping racer, or something


This.

 

Even the days (late 90s) when jRPGs were the popular genre, I don't remember it pulling down all the other genres.  It just seemed like there used to be more variety.  Now it's converging to FPS and casual games.



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