trestres said:
Kasz216 said:
trestres said:
Kasz216 said:
hikaruchan said:
Acevil said:
I think the problem is the perception you have of spin-off, because Jarrod pretty much summed it up. I think you might hold a biased, since you might views spin-off as a negative, when generally it is a positive.
For example SMT: Persona series is a spin-off series, yet it is widely considered by SMT fans to be one of the best, if not better than mainline SMT or MT.
Type-0 series is without a doubt a new final fantasy series that spun-off of Final Fantasy name. If it was called just Type-0 it was be a new series all together with final fantasy like elements.
Versus it might be arguable by some, but it is pretty much a spinoff game from the Final Fantasy 13 brand.
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I think the some Game series Spin-Offs are not regarded as equal with the Original product. but sub seires I believe can be debatable if they are rally Spin-Offs or not.
Like Persona that is a sub series of SMT so it can be debatable if it is a Spin-Off or not.
and it can be argued that DMC, Oinmusha and Dino Crisis are just Spin-Offs of Biohazard despite not having the name Biohazard on the cover anywhere.
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No. It isn't debatable.
At all.
A spinoff is ANYTHING that "spins off" the main franchise.
That's the literal definition of a spinoff. It has nothing to do with opinion. It's like argueing that a Penguin isn't a bird because you have your own specialized definition of bird which requires "Must be able to fly."
It's not debatable... your just wrong and working off a fabricated definition.
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Not siding with anyone here, but if we are going by straight spin off definitions, then Mario is a Donkey Kong spin off. After all, Mario made his debut in a game called Donkey Kong and since then he has had his own games, but only because it's appearance at the first Donkey Kong game.
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Correct?
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I guess so, but I've never heard anyone say Mario was a spinoff. That's why I'm saying this. It is based on opinion sometimes, or else try to argue with people that Mario is a spinoff and not a main series. Not saying that what you said is factually incorrect, but sometimes it being correct doesn't mean that the majority will embrace it. I think there's a thin line between a game being a spinoff or not.
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That's just what happens when Spinoffs become more popular then their predasessors.
It doesn't change the fact that Mario is still a spinoff... just nobody really even realizes it.
How many people know the Jeffersons are a Spinoff? How many people know Popeye was a spinoff.
That's just how it works. Even then, your argueing it from the basis of series.... while he's trying to argue that games that aren't even released yet, and that probably won't have a second game aren't spinoffs.
And, do you actually thing the Final Fantasy Versus line or Final Fantasy zero won't be recognized as final fantasy spinoffs? With final fantasy in their name.