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Torillian said:
irstupid said:
mantlepiecek said:

Considering its difficult to use 3D while on the go, its understandable, actually.


what do you mean when you say this?  how is it difficutly to use 3D on the go?  Its the same as all 3D.  People aren't running down the streets playing handhelds.  they are SITTING on a bus, bench, car, chair, couch, hell wherever or else STANDING in line, against wall, ect.  They are not walking and playing, jogging and playing, on their bikes and playing.

So HOW is 3D different for 3DS and TV when in both cases the person is NOT MOVING. 


sitting while stationary I can agree with, but considering I can get eyestrain and a headache trying to read on a moving vehicle, and I got a similar thing trying to watch Jackass 3D (probably not the best example, but the only 3D movie I've watched) I can imagine that trying to watch something in 3D while on a moving vehicle would give you some issues.


don't two negatives make a positve?  thus you should be fine then, lol.

But that is a stupid point.  If you get motion sickness in car reading you would get it playing in 3D or not 3D.  And if you get sick waatching 3D movies, you would get sick watching it on home entertainemnt TV 3D or on the handheld 3D.

If every situation it seems your getting sick.  so whats your point?



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irstupid said:
Torillian said:
irstupid said:
mantlepiecek said:

Considering its difficult to use 3D while on the go, its understandable, actually.


what do you mean when you say this?  how is it difficutly to use 3D on the go?  Its the same as all 3D.  People aren't running down the streets playing handhelds.  they are SITTING on a bus, bench, car, chair, couch, hell wherever or else STANDING in line, against wall, ect.  They are not walking and playing, jogging and playing, on their bikes and playing.

So HOW is 3D different for 3DS and TV when in both cases the person is NOT MOVING. 


sitting while stationary I can agree with, but considering I can get eyestrain and a headache trying to read on a moving vehicle, and I got a similar thing trying to watch Jackass 3D (probably not the best example, but the only 3D movie I've watched) I can imagine that trying to watch something in 3D while on a moving vehicle would give you some issues.


don't two negatives make a positve?  thus you should be fine then, lol.

But that is a stupid point.  If you get motion sickness in car reading you would get it playing in 3D or not 3D.  And if you get sick waatching 3D movies, you would get sick watching it on home entertainemnt TV 3D or on the handheld 3D.

If every situation it seems your getting sick.  so whats your point?


point would be that if one thing can be difficult to do (focusing on something in a moving vehicle) and another thing can be difficult (focusing on a 3D effect for an extended period) then doing both at the same time (focusing on a 3D effect for an extended period of time on a moving vehicle) could very easily be more difficult and likely to cause issues than either individual activity and thus is not just the same as watching 3D just sitting at home. 



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Torillian said:
irstupid said:
Torillian said:
irstupid said:
mantlepiecek said:

Considering its difficult to use 3D while on the go, its understandable, actually.


what do you mean when you say this?  how is it difficutly to use 3D on the go?  Its the same as all 3D.  People aren't running down the streets playing handhelds.  they are SITTING on a bus, bench, car, chair, couch, hell wherever or else STANDING in line, against wall, ect.  They are not walking and playing, jogging and playing, on their bikes and playing.

So HOW is 3D different for 3DS and TV when in both cases the person is NOT MOVING. 


sitting while stationary I can agree with, but considering I can get eyestrain and a headache trying to read on a moving vehicle, and I got a similar thing trying to watch Jackass 3D (probably not the best example, but the only 3D movie I've watched) I can imagine that trying to watch something in 3D while on a moving vehicle would give you some issues.


don't two negatives make a positve?  thus you should be fine then, lol.

But that is a stupid point.  If you get motion sickness in car reading you would get it playing in 3D or not 3D.  And if you get sick waatching 3D movies, you would get sick watching it on home entertainemnt TV 3D or on the handheld 3D.

If every situation it seems your getting sick.  so whats your point?


point would be that if one thing can be difficult to do (focusing on something in a moving vehicle) and another thing can be difficult (focusing on a 3D effect for an extended period) then doing both at the same time (focusing on a 3D effect for an extended period of time on a moving vehicle) could very easily be more difficult and likely to cause issues than either individual activity and thus is not just the same as watching 3D just sitting at home. 

not saying it won't.  was jocking. 

But as you pointed out, you get sick doign stuff in vehicles, and you get sick watching 3D.

So regardless if you have the 3D turned on or off for the 3DS, you woudl get sick.  So whats your point then?  That people who get motionsickness can't play their 3DS in teh car?  Well no shit, they can't play a gameboy, a ds, or a psp either.  Or taht peopel who get sick watching 3D can't play the 3DS.  Well again no shit, this is all common sense.  Its like saying a blind person won't care about different color sku's. 

The 3DS can turn off 3D for those taht get sick, and for those that get sick playing in car.  Well duh, don't play in car.  Its not the 3DS' fault. 



irstupid said:

not saying it won't.  was jocking. 

But as you pointed out, you get sick doign stuff in vehicles, and you get sick watching 3D.

So regardless if you have the 3D turned on or off for the 3DS, you woudl get sick.  So whats your point then?  That people who get motionsickness can't play their 3DS in teh car?  Well no shit, they can't play a gameboy, a ds, or a psp either.  Or taht peopel who get sick watching 3D can't play the 3DS.  Well again no shit, this is all common sense.  Its like saying a blind person won't care about different color sku's. 

The 3DS can turn off 3D for those taht get sick, and for those that get sick playing in car.  Well duh, don't play in car.  Its not the 3DS' fault. 

This is really taking some effort, it's not about the idea that someone getting motionsickness wouldn't want to play the 3DS in a car, it's that if you do two strenuous activities at the same time someone who wasn't sick doing either individual activity could percievably get sick trying to do both at the same time.  And thus it isn't the same as sitting down because you have added another mitigating factor. 

My point is simply going against the idea that sitting at home watching 3D is the exact same experience as doing so on the go, which is what you pointed out as ridiculous when Sony said it.  I don't honestly give a shit about what is or is not the 3DS's fault, and this will not at all factor in the sales or reviews of the 3DS, but what you said about the two activities being so obviously the same thing is just wrong.



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Carl2291 said:

Can you link me to where they said this please? I'd like to read up on it.


It's on vgchartz frontpage. At least that's where I saw it.



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Torillian said:
irstupid said:
 

not saying it won't.  was jocking. 

But as you pointed out, you get sick doign stuff in vehicles, and you get sick watching 3D.

So regardless if you have the 3D turned on or off for the 3DS, you woudl get sick.  So whats your point then?  That people who get motionsickness can't play their 3DS in teh car?  Well no shit, they can't play a gameboy, a ds, or a psp either.  Or taht peopel who get sick watching 3D can't play the 3DS.  Well again no shit, this is all common sense.  Its like saying a blind person won't care about different color sku's. 

The 3DS can turn off 3D for those taht get sick, and for those that get sick playing in car.  Well duh, don't play in car.  Its not the 3DS' fault. 

This is really taking some effort, it's not about the idea that someone getting motionsickness wouldn't want to play the 3DS in a car, it's that if you do two strenuous activities at the same time someone who wasn't sick doing either individual activity could percievably get sick trying to do both at the same time.  And thus it isn't the same as sitting down because you have added another mitigating factor. 

My point is simply going against the idea that sitting at home watching 3D is the exact same experience as doing so on the go, which is what you pointed out as ridiculous when Sony said it.  I don't honestly give a shit about what is or is not the 3DS's fault, and this will not at all factor in the sales or reviews of the 3DS, but what you said about the two activities being so obviously the same thing is just wrong.

yea i get what your saying.  someone may be able to watch 3D and not get sick, and someone may be able to play a game in the car and not get sick.  but doing both could make him sick.  but that is just speculation.

besides, you can turn OFF the 3D can you not?  besides playing on the go is not 100% in a vehicle either.



irstupid said:
Torillian said:
irstupid said:
 

not saying it won't.  was jocking. 

But as you pointed out, you get sick doign stuff in vehicles, and you get sick watching 3D.

So regardless if you have the 3D turned on or off for the 3DS, you woudl get sick.  So whats your point then?  That people who get motionsickness can't play their 3DS in teh car?  Well no shit, they can't play a gameboy, a ds, or a psp either.  Or taht peopel who get sick watching 3D can't play the 3DS.  Well again no shit, this is all common sense.  Its like saying a blind person won't care about different color sku's. 

The 3DS can turn off 3D for those taht get sick, and for those that get sick playing in car.  Well duh, don't play in car.  Its not the 3DS' fault. 

This is really taking some effort, it's not about the idea that someone getting motionsickness wouldn't want to play the 3DS in a car, it's that if you do two strenuous activities at the same time someone who wasn't sick doing either individual activity could percievably get sick trying to do both at the same time.  And thus it isn't the same as sitting down because you have added another mitigating factor. 

My point is simply going against the idea that sitting at home watching 3D is the exact same experience as doing so on the go, which is what you pointed out as ridiculous when Sony said it.  I don't honestly give a shit about what is or is not the 3DS's fault, and this will not at all factor in the sales or reviews of the 3DS, but what you said about the two activities being so obviously the same thing is just wrong.

yea i get what your saying.  someone may be able to watch 3D and not get sick, and someone may be able to play a game in the car and not get sick.  but doing both could make him sick.  but that is just speculation.

besides, you can turn OFF the 3D can you not?  besides playing on the go is not 100% in a vehicle either.


but isnt the 3d what makes the 3ds stand out? besides the 3d what else is a really good reason for buying a 3ds besides playing "nintendo" games



I'm a bit surprised that people think 3D is going to do so well. I honestly don't really want it at all. I don't ever plan using it on my PS3 (despite having GT5 and access to a 3DTV), and I certainly don't plan on getting a 3DS for the 3D aspect of it.

To add, I'm certainly not sold on the NGP either. I guess I'm just different than most on these sort of things.



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OneTwoThree said:

Well what should they say? They don't have it, so they can't praise it, can they?


That exactly it. If they get asked "What do you think of 3D on handhelds"? what are they supposed  to say? "If it goes great with Nintendo we will copy it!" I mean really lol