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Slimebeast on 27 January 2011

This sux. I agree with Seece, 6.3 million is pathetic. I'm gonna leave this console war or switch sides if we don't start winning soon.



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psrock on 27 January 2011

MS doing well, profits all over the place. Kinect is a monster, but MS somehow shipped 300k more than 2008, weird.



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Beuli2 on 27 January 2011
ramses01 said:
Seece said:
kowenicki said:
Slimebeast said:
kowenicki said:

I think its 6.3m shipped for the quarter...

And what does it need to crack 50 million lifetime Dec 31?

6.3 mill sounds low...


makes it 50.8m

Which is awful IMO. PS3 has a chance to outship 360 this Q, which means Kinect hasn't been as successful as MS are touting it. The blame lies soely on them, there is something they're doing that's wrong, whether it be failing to break into new markets or w.e

U.S sales are up 1 million over 2008, so that means sales are down everywhere else WW 700k this Q. So Kinect has had little impact elsewhere than UK and U.S ... for some reason

Kinect is only partionally function outside US and UK.  It will be interesting to see what happens to demand once voice control goes live to the rest of europe.

Plus, MS blew Nintendo out of the water for profits for the quarter.  Likely at least $200 to $300 million better.

Not so much it seems.

"The entertainment and devices portion of Microsoft (EDD) which houses X360, saw revenues of $3.698b  for the quarter, with profits of $679m."

"Thus the nine-month profit of 49.557b Yen ($602.9m) indicated Nintendo profit reached 51.57b Yen ($627m) for the three months ending December 2010."

And that's with the biggest thing ever, Kinect, launching that quarter. And what else does EED from MS does except for Xbox?



Above: still the best game of the year.

thx1139 on 27 January 2011

Shame really if they could have shipped a million more they could have sold them.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Seece on 27 January 2011

"Microsoft sold 6.3 million XBox 360 consoles during the holiday season, and 8 millon Kinect controllers in the first 60 days after launch. Memberships of its premium XBox Live online service grew 30 percent in the second quarter of its 2011 fiscal year, according to the company. Microsoft is expecting 50 percent growth in its entertainment division in the third quarter, and 40 percent overall for its 2011 fiscal year."

IF they are talking about HW. That means they expect

Q3 (Q1 2011) - 50% up is 2.3 mill, up 750k from 1.5 mill last year.

BUT, this is where it goes off ... they expect overall 40% increase in 2011 over 2010.

Fiscal year 2010 was 10.3 mill, so 40% up would be up 4.1 million, to 14.4 million. So they expect 2.3 next Q and 3.0 mill the following Q.

Edit - got my figures wrong, correct. Seems logical now.



 

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thx1139 on 27 January 2011
Beuli2 said:
ramses01 said:
Seece said:

Which is awful IMO. PS3 has a chance to outship 360 this Q, which means Kinect hasn't been as successful as MS are touting it. The blame lies soely on them, there is something they're doing that's wrong, whether it be failing to break into new markets or w.e

U.S sales are up 1 million over 2008, so that means sales are down everywhere else WW 700k this Q. So Kinect has had little impact elsewhere than UK and U.S ... for some reason

Kinect is only partionally function outside US and UK.  It will be interesting to see what happens to demand once voice control goes live to the rest of europe.

Plus, MS blew Nintendo out of the water for profits for the quarter.  Likely at least $200 to $300 million better.

Not so much it seems.

"The entertainment and devices portion of Microsoft (EDD) which houses X360, saw revenues of $3.698b  for the quarter, with profits of $679m."

"Thus the nine-month profit of 49.557b Yen ($602.9m) indicated Nintendo profit reached 51.57b Yen ($627m) for the three months ending December 2010."

And that's with the biggest thing ever, Kinect, launching that quarter.


Pretty damn impressive if you ask me.  What is the combined user base of DS and Wii owners that were purchasing software this holiday season?  Not to mention no businesses in the same division that are losing money bringing down the numbers for EDD.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Seece on 27 January 2011
kowenicki said:
Seece said:

"Microsoft sold 6.3 million XBox 360 consoles during the holiday season, and 8 millon Kinect controllers in the first 60 days after launch. Memberships of its premium XBox Live online service grew 30 percent in the second quarter of its 2011 fiscal year, according to the company. Microsoft is expecting 50 percent growth in its entertainment division in the third quarter, and 40 percent overall for its 2011 fiscal year."

IF they are talking about HW. That means they expect

Q3 (Q1 2011) - 50% up is 2.3 mill, up 750k from 1.5 mill last year.

BUT, this is where it goes off ... they expect overall 40% increase in 2011 over 2010.

Fiscal year 2010 was 10.3 mill, so 40% up would be up 4.1 million, to 14.4 million. So they expect 2.3 next Q and 3.0 mill the following Q?? lol

Hope someone can clarify.


They are talking revenue.

No they aint, I corrected.

They expect

Q1 - 1.5 (2010) to 2.3 mill (the 50% increase)
Q2 - 1.5(2010 to 3.0 mill (overall 40%)

These figures fit, obviously Q1 is going to see an increase, and in Q2 they'll have stock sorted out.

40% increase in profit would be $920 million, so obviously not profit. Revenue doesn't match either.



 

ElGranCabeza on 27 January 2011

Those are some great numbers for MS but whoever suggested that WM7 is a drain in the division is, well, wrong. I'll say wrong so I don't get banned.

Didn't the source predict 7.5 million shipped? I knew it was gonna be around 6 or so.



Acevil on 27 January 2011
Seece said:
kowenicki said:

seece.... its about profit.

I honestly think ms will be happy wherever the 360 finishes now.

Saying that a price cut this year is a certainty and a very aggressive holiday in 2011.

Profits are good yes



The $4,966 figure is loss obviously.


In two years it should be 3 billion (hopefully), and next generation should put them in the green. (kind of the reverse of the sony brand! :P

Also remember that Kin 1 billion development cost is in this figure.  Or xbox360 would be higher. 



 

Shorty11857 on 27 January 2011
Seece said:
kowenicki said:

seece.... its about profit.

I honestly think ms will be happy wherever the 360 finishes now.

Saying that a price cut this year is a certainty and a very aggressive holiday in 2011.

Profits are good yes



The $4,966 figure is loss obviously.

I really think it should always be stated that this isn't just the xbox division, with everything else they have in  this division we have no real way to know how much the 360 has lost

 

Great results for microsoft though, best quarter ever