So you believe that a game like Killzone 3 isn't a Move title since it is not Move only?

If so, now could it be done any better?

I was only talking about legacy titles, see bolded. It is unquestionable that a title like Killzone 3 with great Move support right from the start is 100% a full blooded Move release.

I guess what you are trying to say is that games not made exclusively for the move should not be counted? If you do this, the kinect has the better library atm imo, but if you compare any compatible game, move clearly wins, so it all depends on what you are comparing.

Also, are you saying that Halo and ME would be rated lower if they used the kinect? Are you implying that the kinect is unable to produce high quality games? That is a pretty bold statement isn't it?(just messing with you lol, although I am curious about what you meant in that 2nd paragraph)

Or they jumped on because SONY pictures is a HUGE player and they would have never gone to HD-DVD. Same goes with Disney who was on board early.

So what about Killzone 3, Socom 4, LittleBigPlanet 2, MLB The Show 11? Will they count since they also make use of the Dualshock 3?

If it can be played with the Move it is a Move title. No rule states they need to be Move controls exclusively.

If that is what you are saying I have to say that is pretty bad. I find that to be a very poor attempt to dismiss a HUGE portion of the upcoming Move library.

That is absurd logic.  These games being better on controller is a matter of personal preference.  Much like (I hate the Xbox 360 controller and prefer the PS3 one to it).   Sure you can count great games that incorporate Move support as 'Move' games.     

Not talking about preference I am talking about what the game is designed for, the games were better on the ds3 becasue that is what they were designed for.

Take Resident Evil for example,  I had absolutely no interest in this game when it launched.  It broke away from the standard RE formula and felt more survival horror to me from the demo than how the game used to play out.  Shortly after I bought Move,  I went out and purchased Resident Evil (Specifically for Move and won't touch it with anything else) so my brother and I can co-op through the story.    Having a ton of fun with it and couldn't see myself ever using a controller with it.

OK thats fair enough, but Resident evil was thought of and mostly done before Move was announced that is what I have the issue with. From day one it wasnt a move game.    

And the reason you don't see Kinect with Halo or Mass Effect is because they CAN'T do it yet.  Not on a primary full-fledged sense. They have yet to find a way to do it intuitively.  Believe me, if Microsoft could include Kinect support in everything they most certainly would.  Move support isn't 'mini-games' in most of the games listed, it is full-fledged 100% control scheme using the Move.

No that is my point, Move support is on some games yes but not "full-fledged 100% control scheme" what would be designing it from the start to use Move, those games didn't hence why if MS did the same thing they wouldnt count. Move didnt enhance the game to a valid enough point to add it. It was adding it for the sake of adding it in every single case bar Move only games so far. Little Big Planet 2 will most likely be a different case though.

OK I clearly meant the dual shock 3 because we are talking about ps3. Killzone Socom and LBP2 also MLB can be considered IF they originally designed for Move, not tact on after which is the case on most if not all of ps3 hybrids released atm.

No you are mincing my words I am saying that it would be worked the same way, Harry Potter is not a Kinect game because it has a dodgy little Kinect mini thing on it. Because the game was not designed for Kinect as a whole.

So you are in the same camp as Squill? Games like Heavy Rain are Dualshock 3 titles with Move controls added but Killzone 3 is a full fledged Move title since it was developed with a Move control scheme in mind?

If so I can fully accept that and I agree.

i meant that some of the move titles seem to be move just tact on, microsoft could have re-released halo and mass effect (high reviewing exlcusives) and put kinect on them and you would have to count them as kinect games, thus why i think that move only games should  be the only move games counted

Mass Effect is no  longer an exclusive series(if you are referring to the first one, isn't that on the pc too?) Also, I wonder how they would accomplish an fps on the kinect, without using a motion/ traditional controller. If you mean that add a little mini game(like done in Harry Potter), I wouldn't consider that  a "kinect game." This is somewhat similar to the whole pc/360 exclusives debate.
Edit:  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=123089&page=5

 Still some problems to be ironed out, but it appears it may be capable of playing fpses.