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voty2000 said:
pizzahut451 said:
SmokedHostage said:
pizzahut451 said:

No, its just PlayStation fans care more about their experience and quality of their hardware than how their favourite company is doing...unlike some other people


What are you implying, good sir.

PlayStation fans care more about good hardware than its sales


I think you just proved the OP.  If a console has good specs and crappy sales guess what, the console manufacturer will go bankrupt.  If you enjoy something you should care about sales becuase if something doesn't sell, the company behind it fails.  Crappy logic.


You honestly think Sony will go bankrupt? Ok...



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ghost_of_fazz said:
pizzahut451 said:
Arcturus said:
pizzahut451 said:
ghost_of_fazz said:
pizzahut451 said:

No, its just PlayStation fans care more about their experience and quality of their hardware than how their favourite company is doing...unlike some other people

That explains all the posts where they pretty much want Sony to hire someone to kill Geohot and the other guys that hacked the PS3.

Because obviously homebrew and piracy affects the quality of ther experience, right?


You tell me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f7NDx_EX94

Damn, you beat me to it.


it will also effect trophies, you know

You guys have a very valid point, I agree with that, but still you can't generalize that Sony fans care more for the experience than for the company, with posts like this one:

Regardless how tempting it may be to have custom firmware etc, I will not due that to my PS3 as I have to much respect for Sony, and i'm really against it anyways.

And there are more on the likes. I don't think having too much respect for a company translates into caring more for the experience than for the company.


Well, this IS a sales web site. You'll find lots of posts like that here, but in general, i think your averige PS3 owner cares much more about PS3 nad its quality than its sales.



pizzahut451 said:
ghost_of_fazz said:
pizzahut451 said:
Arcturus said:
pizzahut451 said:
ghost_of_fazz said:
pizzahut451 said:

No, its just PlayStation fans care more about their experience and quality of their hardware than how their favourite company is doing...unlike some other people

That explains all the posts where they pretty much want Sony to hire someone to kill Geohot and the other guys that hacked the PS3.

Because obviously homebrew and piracy affects the quality of ther experience, right?


You tell me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f7NDx_EX94

Damn, you beat me to it.


it will also effect trophies, you know

You guys have a very valid point, I agree with that, but still you can't generalize that Sony fans care more for the experience than for the company, with posts like this one:

Regardless how tempting it may be to have custom firmware etc, I will not due that to my PS3 as I have to much respect for Sony, and i'm really against it anyways.

And there are more on the likes. I don't think having too much respect for a company translates into caring more for the experience than for the company.


Well, this IS a sales web site. You'll find lots of posts like that here, but in general, i think your averige PS3 owner cares much more about PS3 nad its quality than its sales.

I disagree if we're talking relative to other consoles. (Most console owners don't care about sales at all.) There are more PS3 owners on here than there are Nintendo or MS users (combined?) on here. Obviously, this is a miniscule sample, but going just bz this, that happening when there are significantly fewer people in the PS3 users than Nintendo or MS in general probably suggests that a higher proportion of PS3 owners care about sales than others.



 

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Kantor said:
SmokedHostage said:
Gilgamesh said:
SmokedHostage said:
Gilgamesh said:

By the time PSP2 releases the PS3 will be selling consoles at $199 - $299. Hence why the PSP will be still under 3DS price of $300. I predict the PSP will be selling at $250 with a slight profit.


Do you mean PSP or PSP2?


Good catch yes I mean PSP2 oops


Would it be on the question to ask... What if the PSP2 is less powerful than the 3DS?

That would be ideal. It can't outperform the 3DS without having a heftier price tag and worse battery life. It's time to consider a new approach when your competitor has goggle-free 3D at a reasonably high price. You need to undercut it, even if it means not creating a PSP2 significantly more powerful than the PSP. Hell, just put in a touch screen (maybe), dual analog and maybe four shoulder buttons, and nobody will care if PSP2 games look last-gen.

Not sure if serious >.>



pizzahut451 said:
voty2000 said:
pizzahut451 said:
SmokedHostage said:
pizzahut451 said:

No, its just PlayStation fans care more about their experience and quality of their hardware than how their favourite company is doing...unlike some other people


What are you implying, good sir.

PlayStation fans care more about good hardware than its sales


I think you just proved the OP.  If a console has good specs and crappy sales guess what, the console manufacturer will go bankrupt.  If you enjoy something you should care about sales becuase if something doesn't sell, the company behind it fails.  Crappy logic.


You honestly think Sony will go bankrupt? Ok...

I didn't say that.  Notice that I didn't even say Sony in my reply.  I was making a point that if you like something you should care about its sales, because if it doesn't sell it will not be supported in the future.  Don't try to put words in my mouth and way to miss the point of my post.



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pizzahut451 said:No, its just PlayStation fans care more about their experience and quality of their hardware than how their favourite company is doing...unlike some other people

i'll second this.

wait thats me no i don't? u mean fanboy right?



Squilliam said:
Kantor said:
SmokedHostage said:


Would it be on the question to ask... What if the PSP2 is less powerful than the 3DS?

That would be ideal. It can't outperform the 3DS without having a heftier price tag and worse battery life. It's time to consider a new approach when your competitor has goggle-free 3D at a reasonably high price. You need to undercut it, even if it means not creating a PSP2 significantly more powerful than the PSP. Hell, just put in a touch screen (maybe), dual analog and maybe four shoulder buttons, and nobody will care if PSP2 games look last-gen.

Not true. It depends on the quality of the PSP2 architecture. Its possible to have lower power, higher performance and the same or better battery life. I mean look at Microsoft, they managed to make a cheaper console with similar performance and which used less power. In the handheld industry things are even more dynamic. Face it, if it weren't possible for Sony to make a higher performance handheld given Nintendos conservatism I would say, shoot them now to save them the humiliation!

Perhaps performance wasn't the right word. The hardware can't be superior to that of the 3DS without a higher price tag. It can certainly be put together more efficiently, but Sony hasn't really been fantastic at that, of late. And also, the low price tag and high performance of the 360 were at the expense of hardware reliability.

It's more important that the PSP2 be reliable and cheap than powerful. 3DS-level graphics in 2D would be a good aim, I think.



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Kantor said:
Squilliam said:
Kantor said:
SmokedHostage said:


Would it be on the question to ask... What if the PSP2 is less powerful than the 3DS?

That would be ideal. It can't outperform the 3DS without having a heftier price tag and worse battery life. It's time to consider a new approach when your competitor has goggle-free 3D at a reasonably high price. You need to undercut it, even if it means not creating a PSP2 significantly more powerful than the PSP. Hell, just put in a touch screen (maybe), dual analog and maybe four shoulder buttons, and nobody will care if PSP2 games look last-gen.

Not true. It depends on the quality of the PSP2 architecture. Its possible to have lower power, higher performance and the same or better battery life. I mean look at Microsoft, they managed to make a cheaper console with similar performance and which used less power. In the handheld industry things are even more dynamic. Face it, if it weren't possible for Sony to make a higher performance handheld given Nintendos conservatism I would say, shoot them now to save them the humiliation!

Perhaps performance wasn't the right word. The hardware can't be superior to that of the 3DS without a higher price tag. It can certainly be put together more efficiently, but Sony hasn't really been fantastic at that, of late. And also, the low price tag and high performance of the 360 were at the expense of hardware reliability.

It's more important that the PSP2 be reliable and cheap than powerful. 3DS-level graphics in 2D would be a good aim, I think.

If Sony choose the right architecture they can have more performance and if they go to the 28nm node they can even have more performance, more battery life at the same time. The actual architecture itself is a much of a muchness in terms of cost but you can do much better if you choose the right I.P. and make the right deals. The Nintendo 3DS architecture is old, in the case of the CPU or strange in the case of the PICO? chip. I would say for sure that a PSP2 packing a dual core ARM Cortex 8 Tegra 2 would be quite the stallion in terms of performance.

The low price tag of the 360 didn't cause reliability issues, the issues were caused by bad design decisions. It could have been made at the same price at better reliability had they done a few things differently, but these aren't things which would have cost them any.





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Immortal said:
pizzahut451 said:
ghost_of_fazz said:
pizzahut451 said:
Arcturus said:
pizzahut451 said:
ghost_of_fazz said:
pizzahut451 said:

No, its just PlayStation fans care more about their experience and quality of their hardware than how their favourite company is doing...unlike some other people

That explains all the posts where they pretty much want Sony to hire someone to kill Geohot and the other guys that hacked the PS3.

Because obviously homebrew and piracy affects the quality of ther experience, right?


You tell me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f7NDx_EX94

Damn, you beat me to it.


it will also effect trophies, you know

You guys have a very valid point, I agree with that, but still you can't generalize that Sony fans care more for the experience than for the company, with posts like this one:

Regardless how tempting it may be to have custom firmware etc, I will not due that to my PS3 as I have to much respect for Sony, and i'm really against it anyways.

And there are more on the likes. I don't think having too much respect for a company translates into caring more for the experience than for the company.


Well, this IS a sales web site. You'll find lots of posts like that here, but in general, i think your averige PS3 owner cares much more about PS3 nad its quality than its sales.

I disagree if we're talking relative to other consoles. (Most console owners don't care about sales at all.) There are more PS3 owners on here than there are Nintendo or MS users (combined?) on here. Obviously, this is a miniscule sample, but going just bz this, that happening when there are significantly fewer people in the PS3 users than Nintendo or MS in general probably suggests that a higher proportion of PS3 owners care about sales than others.

The sheer amount of useless logic in this post is outstanding xD



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Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:

I disagree if we're talking relative to other consoles. (Most console owners don't care about sales at all.) There are more PS3 owners on here than there are Nintendo or MS users (combined?) on here. Obviously, this is a miniscule sample, but going just bz this, that happening when there are significantly fewer people in the PS3 users than Nintendo or MS in general probably suggests that a higher proportion of PS3 owners care about sales than others.

The sheer amount of useless logic in this post is outstanding xD

The sheer lack of content in this post is astounding.

Really, if you want to criticize something, you need to say why. You just look like an idiot otherwise. Even "PS3z pplz r cooooolz nd cre about qualitz not sals lololololol" would be a better response.

The only problem in my post was that the sample size is too small - there's really no other "useless logic" in it at all. Not until you can explain why there is, anyway.



 

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