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jarrod on 12 January 2011

Boutros said:

Oh...

Well I hope the PS3 version will meet their expectations.

It's only chance is if they get rid of the book imo.  Also, it'd probably help if they started the advertising more than week before launch, unlike the DS version... particularly on PS3, it seems companies need to start revving the base really early.

Then again, I think we'll see lowered expectations on L5's part, Hino wanted the game to sell 1-2m across DS & PS3 and if the DS version comes in only around 500k, that's going to be a tough climb.



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MrT-Tar on 12 January 2011
Boutros said:

Am I the only one who thinks Ni no kuni is doing amazing?

I wasn't expecting it to do so good after the FW numbers.

It will easily reach 500k which is very good for a new IP.

And besides, some people might be waiting for the PS3 version.


Well Ninokuni is well below my pre-release expectations, but I think it's doing better than I expected after it's FW was announced.

I really hope NoE pick it up for localisation




Untamoi on 12 January 2011
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Boutros said:

Am I the only one who thinks Ni no kuni is doing amazing?

I wasn't expecting it to do so good after the FW numbers.

It will easily reach 500k which is very good for a new IP.

And besides, some people might be waiting for the PS3 version.


With 600k shipped by Level-5 and with it's massive price slash of the game of almost 50%.  It is hard to be amazed with the sales IMO.

 I am pretty worried for the PS3's version of the game now. 

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/02/ni-no-kuni-prices-slashed-at-japanese-retail/

 

Well, that price slash might not have anything to do how much developer gets money from the game. With most products in stores, producers of the product get the money when retailers buys product from them. Retailer may 
order 100 copies and only sell 10 copies at full price and still it wouldn't matter. Heck, producers gets exactly same money even if those products would never be sold to customers. It doesn't matter if retailer sells the game in the end for $1000 or $1, only retailer price matter to producer, not customer price. There are exceptions to this but this is most common practice.

However, if they produce a lot copies AND retailers don't buy them, then they could lose a lot of money.



M.U.G.E.N on 12 January 2011

Ni No kuni DS did horribly :( hope the ps3 version does better but have my doubts

anywho MH!!!!!!! psp is doing just ok cuz of shortages sadly, hope they fix it soon

and ps3>wii? sweet



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saicho on 12 January 2011
Untamoi said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Boutros said:

Am I the only one who thinks Ni no kuni is doing amazing?

I wasn't expecting it to do so good after the FW numbers.

It will easily reach 500k which is very good for a new IP.

And besides, some people might be waiting for the PS3 version.


With 600k shipped by Level-5 and with it's massive price slash of the game of almost 50%.  It is hard to be amazed with the sales IMO.

 I am pretty worried for the PS3's version of the game now. 

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/02/ni-no-kuni-prices-slashed-at-japanese-retail/

 

Well, that price slash might not have anything to do how much developer gets money from the game. With most products in stores, producers of the product get the money when retailers buys product from them. Retailer may 
order 100 copies and only sell 10 copies at full price and still it wouldn't matter. Heck, producers gets exactly same money even if those products would never be sold to customers. It doesn't matter if retailer sells the game in the end for $1000 or $1, only retailer price matter to producer, not customer price. There are exceptions to this but this is most common practice.

However, if they produce a lot copies AND retailers don't buy them, then they could lose a lot of money.

not sure what your point is since he never argue the point of how much money Level 5 is making. The price slash just means how desparately retailers want to get rid of the stock and it might affect retailer's initial order for PS3 version of Nino Kuni.



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rccsetzer on 12 January 2011
saicho said:
Untamoi said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Boutros said:

Am I the only one who thinks Ni no kuni is doing amazing?

I wasn't expecting it to do so good after the FW numbers.

It will easily reach 500k which is very good for a new IP.

And besides, some people might be waiting for the PS3 version.


With 600k shipped by Level-5 and with it's massive price slash of the game of almost 50%.  It is hard to be amazed with the sales IMO.

 I am pretty worried for the PS3's version of the game now. 

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/02/ni-no-kuni-prices-slashed-at-japanese-retail/

 

Well, that price slash might not have anything to do how much developer gets money from the game. With most products in stores, producers of the product get the money when retailers buys product from them. Retailer may 
order 100 copies and only sell 10 copies at full price and still it wouldn't matter. Heck, producers gets exactly same money even if those products would never be sold to customers. It doesn't matter if retailer sells the game in the end for $1000 or $1, only retailer price matter to producer, not customer price. There are exceptions to this but this is most common practice.

However, if they produce a lot copies AND retailers don't buy them, then they could lose a lot of money.

not sure what your point is since he never argue the point of how much money Level 5 is making. The price slash just means how desparately retailers want to get rid of the stock and it might affect retailer's initial order for PS3 version of Nino Kuni.


Not only that, but it might affect future Level 5 games.



Rob-Ot on 12 January 2011
rccsetzer said:
saicho said:
Untamoi said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Boutros said:

Am I the only one who thinks Ni no kuni is doing amazing?

I wasn't expecting it to do so good after the FW numbers.

It will easily reach 500k which is very good for a new IP.

And besides, some people might be waiting for the PS3 version.


With 600k shipped by Level-5 and with it's massive price slash of the game of almost 50%.  It is hard to be amazed with the sales IMO.

 I am pretty worried for the PS3's version of the game now. 

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/02/ni-no-kuni-prices-slashed-at-japanese-retail/

 

Well, that price slash might not have anything to do how much developer gets money from the game. With most products in stores, producers of the product get the money when retailers buys product from them. Retailer may 
order 100 copies and only sell 10 copies at full price and still it wouldn't matter. Heck, producers gets exactly same money even if those products would never be sold to customers. It doesn't matter if retailer sells the game in the end for $1000 or $1, only retailer price matter to producer, not customer price. There are exceptions to this but this is most common practice.

However, if they produce a lot copies AND retailers don't buy them, then they could lose a lot of money.

not sure what your point is since he never argue the point of how much money Level 5 is making. The price slash just means how desparately retailers want to get rid of the stock and it might affect retailer's initial order for PS3 version of Nino Kuni.


Not only that, but it might affect future Level 5 games.

Apparently the game isn't that good anyway. 



Acevil on 12 January 2011
Boutros said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Boutros said:

Am I the only one who thinks Ni no kuni is doing amazing?

I wasn't expecting it to do so good after the FW numbers.

It will easily reach 500k which is very good for a new IP.

And besides, some people might be waiting for the PS3 version.


With 600k shipped by Level-5 and with it's massive price slash of the game of almost 50%.  It is hard to be amazed with the sales IMO.

 I am pretty worried for the PS3's version of the game now. 

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/02/ni-no-kuni-prices-slashed-at-japanese-retail/

 

Oh...

Well I hope the PS3 version will meet their expectations.


It would be sad if that game can't do 350k plus. 



 

jarrod on 12 January 2011
Acevil said:


It would be sad if that game can't do 350k plus. 

Ninokuni PS3 underselling WKC would be a travesty of epic proportions. :/



Acevil on 12 January 2011
jarrod said:
Acevil said:


It would be sad if that game can't do 350k plus. 

Ninokuni PS3 underselling WKC would be a travesty of epic proportions. :/


Exactly, that is why I felt putting under 300k as a travesty since WKC did that .